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Steam is cracking down on porn games, to keep Payment Processors happy.
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Why shouldn't the payment processors get a say in the payments they process? Illegal or not, why should they be forced to process payments that facilitate things against their beliefs? Steam could pursue other payment processing possibilities instead of acquiescing to their demands.> Steam could pursue other payment processing possibilities Imagine you can't use visa or mastercard. What other fucking payment card acceptance system are you going to use for payment processing in under 30 seconds? >Why shouldn’t the payment processors get a say in the payments they process Because it's none of their business what I buy. If a store is a reputable business that isn't defrauding me, and are a legal entity, then whatever they sell to me or I buy from them should only matter to me and the seller. >Illegal or not, why should they be forced to process payments that facilitate things against their beliefs? So half the market can get nuked once the CEO decides whatever faith du jour they have disallows whatever?
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   [Source](https://bsky.app/profile/steamdb.info/post/3lu32vdlsmg27).
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[Isn't that the same argument used against homosexuals?](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRERy1-RzyISVMCIa8u9y1Yi8wCP-7nTTrRUQ&s=)
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It’s kind of messy because I think there is a subset of the fandom where it isn’t necessarily sexualized. Like, Khajit and Argonians from Elder Scrolls are pretty much furries but they’re not explicitly sexual. Feel like I’m getting over my skis in terms of my understanding of that fandom since I’m not in that world. No idea how if at all those cons keep the kid safe stuff separate from the sex shit, if at all.
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It does extend to others since they put animated, innocent "kid-friendly" looking porn on imageboards. And yes it's akin to beastialty which is vile. Why else would you dress up like an animal?1. You can't see these games without being signed in 2. When you create a new account, adult games are hidden by default 3. You can use the *[Mature Content Preferences](https://store.steampowered.com/account/preferences)* if you don't want to see them 4. [Steam Families](https://store.steampowered.com/account/familymanagement) + managed accounts is the way to go to curate stuff for kids Let the adults be adults, and let the parents to their jobs. No need to grandstand on something so petty.
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It does extend to others since they put animated, innocent "kid-friendly" looking porn on imageboards. And yes it's akin to beastialty which is vile. Why else would you dress up like an animal?
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> Steam could pursue other payment processing possibilities Imagine you can't use visa or mastercard. What other fucking payment card acceptance system are you going to use for payment processing in under 30 seconds? >Why shouldn’t the payment processors get a say in the payments they process Because it's none of their business what I buy. If a store is a reputable business that isn't defrauding me, and are a legal entity, then whatever they sell to me or I buy from them should only matter to me and the seller. >Illegal or not, why should they be forced to process payments that facilitate things against their beliefs? So half the market can get nuked once the CEO decides whatever faith du jour they have disallows whatever?These payment processors are businesses. They provide a service. Like valve does. It seems to me like you're making an argument for valve, but not for these other businesses which only differ in the service they provide. If your point is "our society is too dependant on a small selection of payment processors and we need better options," that's a separate discussion and one I don't think I'd disagree with.
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Because corporate religions are obviously more important than individual religions and beliefs. It goes against my beliefs to pay overdraft fees. Do you think that shit would hold up? They are constantly changing the rules that you have to follow and enforcing their will on everyone whether they use their service or not. Religion is vile.I'm genuinely confused about what point you are trying to make.
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That's different than cub stuff right?Yes. Cub stuff can be banned for all I care.
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Why shouldn't the payment processors get a say in the payments they process? Illegal or not, why should they be forced to process payments that facilitate things against their beliefs? Steam could pursue other payment processing possibilities instead of acquiescing to their demands.Things of questionable moral value have been available for sale for as long as money has existed. It’s not like this is new. Payment processors got into this business knowing perfectly well that some purchases may not align with their moral values. In fact, they’ve been profiting off it for decades. They don’t get to suddenly clutch their pearls _now_. To be clear, I won’t miss the incest games. I just don’t like the precedent this is setting.
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1. You can't see these games without being signed in 2. When you create a new account, adult games are hidden by default 3. You can use the *[Mature Content Preferences](https://store.steampowered.com/account/preferences)* if you don't want to see them 4. [Steam Families](https://store.steampowered.com/account/familymanagement) + managed accounts is the way to go to curate stuff for kids Let the adults be adults, and let the parents to their jobs. No need to grandstand on something so petty.
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So… why tell payment processors _exactly_ what was purchased? Why not call it “Steam store transaction” and that’s it?Ironically, when you look at the receipts that is all it says. I think they're just blanket saying "follow our morals or die" rather than "this particular title offends us".
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   [Source](https://bsky.app/profile/steamdb.info/post/3lu32vdlsmg27).Link post about this thing an hour earlier - 10 upvotes. Picture with the same news one hour later - 10x more. Average Lemmy user is no longer distinguishable from a Reddit user
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On the one hand, oh noz, the incest games. Who will live without the low effort AI goon crap? On the other hand, why do the payment companies get to dictate what sales are made? It's my fucking money, or my fucking store. It's not the job of the payment processors to determine if I'm buying illegal goods, just that the money goes from me to the store.The payments can become a legal liability for the processors. I believe there are federal laws that have penalties for anyone who facilitates transactions for certain prohibited goods or services. It's the same reason cannabis shops have such a hard time getting payment and banking services. The payment processors have very little incentive to take risks here. As others have noted, there isn't much competition pressure.
