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Steam is cracking down on porn games, to keep Payment Processors happy.
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Why shouldn't the payment processors get a say in the payments they process? Illegal or not, why should they be forced to process payments that facilitate things against their beliefs? Steam could pursue other payment processing possibilities instead of acquiescing to their demands.
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I wish that was the case. It's mostly just extreme right lobbying groups like Focus on the Family and the Alliance Defending Freedom, the same groups that control the far right, exert colonial control over impoverished African countries, and generally make the world a worse place for everyone. The same groups that manufactured cases to screw up Dobbs, Wedding cake lawsuits, and death penalty laws for LGBTQ citizens of Uganda.
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Yes, Valve and Visa/MasterCard differ massively in their service. Valve operates a store within a specific industry, Visa/MasterCard process payments across our whole society. It should be clear to anyone that payment providers must be held to a much stricter standard and have certain requirements of neutrality imposed on them. If not then in the best case you risk destroying the "free market" part of free market capitalism, worst case you're weakening democracy by letting unelected, unaccountable people decide what is and what isn't legal.
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I wish that was the case. It's mostly just extreme right lobbying groups like Focus on the Family and the Alliance Defending Freedom, the same groups that control the far right, exert colonial control over impoverished African countries, and generally make the world a worse place for everyone. The same groups that manufactured cases to screw up Dobbs, Wedding cake lawsuits, and death penalty laws for LGBTQ citizens of Uganda.
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If the US used something like pix, MasterCard, visa, etc wouldn't have any power to do this, but they are wanting to make Brazil delete pix from existing. Interesting.
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Payment processors should not be allowed to dictate what content they allow to be bought and what not. It's not their job to police people, let me live ffs
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   [Source](https://bsky.app/profile/steamdb.info/post/3lu32vdlsmg27).
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Why shouldn't the payment processors get a say in the payments they process? Illegal or not, why should they be forced to process payments that facilitate things against their beliefs? Steam could pursue other payment processing possibilities instead of acquiescing to their demands.
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It's been like this for a while in the porn industry. In an interview a while back, Bree Mills says she gets more limited by payment processors than the government (though that might be switching). Ever wonder why every faux-incest video goes out of the way to say everyone is a step family? Step father, step daughter, step mother, step brother, all somehow living in the same house, over 18, and no blood relation? The first amendment protects them from the US government, so that's not why. Credit card companies are why. The old Taboo series was distributed differently back in the day. Can't make that anymore. This also applies to some of the more extreme BDSM stuff, like blood play or scat. Won't find them on kink.com.
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First they came for the incestuous porn Then they came for the furries Then they came for games with violence Then...
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> Steam could pursue other payment processing possibilities Imagine you can't use visa or mastercard. What other fucking payment card acceptance system are you going to use for payment processing in under 30 seconds? >Why shouldn’t the payment processors get a say in the payments they process Because it's none of their business what I buy. If a store is a reputable business that isn't defrauding me, and are a legal entity, then whatever they sell to me or I buy from them should only matter to me and the seller. >Illegal or not, why should they be forced to process payments that facilitate things against their beliefs? So half the market can get nuked once the CEO decides whatever faith du jour they have disallows whatever?> Imagine you can't use visa or mastercard. What other fucking payment card acceptance system are you going to use for payment processing in under 30 seconds? Amex. Discover. Diners Club. Venmo.
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What if these payment processors have decided it's bad business for them to process payments for incest porn games?
On what grounds would doing so operationally impair the platform? Is it illegal? Does it prevent them from servicing other businesses in a timely fashion? Does it cost more money in a way that can't be reflected in the service fee structure?
Explain to me what reason they would have for objecting that isn't just a different way of phrasing "morality judgment" or "image management".
Do you also think that a shipping company should be able to refuse to ship products from businesses they don't approve of, even if it's functionally identical to something else they would ship?
What about either of those companies refusing service to someone because of their sexual orientation or gender identity?
People used to say it's bad business to service gays, blacks, Jews, Catholics, Hispanics and the Irish. At some point we decided that businesses need to shut the fuck up and just do business without judging, or else their service has no place in society.
The free market that businesses love so much exists entirely through the grace and in the service of society at large. If they fail to at least not harm society, why should society extend that courtesy to them?
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You should work on learning how to handle those feelings. Most people just ignore it when other people do stuff they think is gross if it's not hurting anyone. For example, I think egg salad is pretty gross. I manage this in my day to day life by "not buying egg salad", and if I run into it I usually just "move along quickly", or say "oh, no thank you". I doubt people are as pushy with furry porn as they are with egg salad, unless you and I live in shockingly different worlds.
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Do you have proof of this? Capitalism doesn’t know any sort of morality or ideology other than that which allows it to extract the most value
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> Imagine you can't use visa or mastercard. What other fucking payment card acceptance system are you going to use for payment processing in under 30 seconds? Amex. Discover. Diners Club. Venmo.and will they accept me selling incredibly controversial pervert games that disgust even the most perverse?
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When did you decide your sexuality? Did you decide what sex you're attracted to? No you didn't. If that where the case, anyone could change at any time they wanted. Ask Turing how that went for him. Or any other homosexual through the ages.
