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Steam is cracking down on porn games, to keep Payment Processors happy.
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Because they're a financial institution, not an individual. They don't have beliefs. Arguing that corporate "beliefs" (image management) and interests take priority over societal order is ridiculous. We regulate banks and financial institutions all the time. We regulate *businesses* all the time. They should suck it up and treat businesses with legal activities and proper tax documents as just another business. Kinda like how we have laws that say that public shipping companies need to generally treat all customers the same. It's why they don't typically ask what's in the box aside from questions related to operational characteristics. Porn doesn't spontaneously ignite and threaten an aircraft, but lithium batteries can.> Arguing that corporate "beliefs" (image management) and interests take priority over societal order is ridiculous. Good thing I'm not arguing that.
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> Imagine you can't use visa or mastercard. What other fucking payment card acceptance system are you going to use for payment processing in under 30 seconds? This is one of the few places where I think cryptocurrency could be useful. It ain't much, but there it is.Incorrect! Bitcoin transactions take 10 FUCKING MINUTES.
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Incorrect! Bitcoin transactions take 10 FUCKING MINUTES.
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They shouldn’t be allowed to do that. They should be required to process any legal payment. Even the icky ones.
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Why shouldn't the payment processors get a say in the payments they process? Illegal or not, why should they be forced to process payments that facilitate things against their beliefs? Steam could pursue other payment processing possibilities instead of acquiescing to their demands.In a world without regulation etc... maybe. Bottom line we've given payment processors power. Bottom line we need to buy things in the digital world, unless crypto can actually be stabilized or designed in a way that doesn't require an unsustainable massive energy waste and polution to use. There either needs to be a universal good as cash payment processor that anyone can easily use... or we need to force ones that exist to transfer payments without bias.
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Incorrect! Bitcoin transactions take 10 FUCKING MINUTES.
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These payment processors are businesses. They provide a service. Like valve does. It seems to me like you're making an argument for valve, but not for these other businesses which only differ in the service they provide. If your point is "our society is too dependant on a small selection of payment processors and we need better options," that's a separate discussion and one I don't think I'd disagree with.Well I think bottom line is that's the rub, the burden to become a payment provider is high... which it should be, but that's because we need pretty damn good regulations on them (as obviously if their security goes to crap, the consiquences are insanely high). In addition it kind of is a small group by design because, we can't have it as a large group. If we have a nice even spread across 50 payment processors, then either everyone needs 50 credit cards, or every service that needs to be paid needs contracts with 50 payment services.
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Incorrect! Bitcoin transactions take 10 FUCKING MINUTES.
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These payment processors are businesses. They provide a service. Like valve does. It seems to me like you're making an argument for valve, but not for these other businesses which only differ in the service they provide. If your point is "our society is too dependant on a small selection of payment processors and we need better options," that's a separate discussion and one I don't think I'd disagree with.Yes, Valve and Visa/MasterCard differ massively in their service. Valve operates a store within a specific industry, Visa/MasterCard process payments across our whole society. It should be clear to anyone that payment providers must be held to a much stricter standard and have certain requirements of neutrality imposed on them. If not then in the best case you risk destroying the "free market" part of free market capitalism, worst case you're weakening democracy by letting unelected, unaccountable people decide what is and what isn't legal.
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   [Source](https://bsky.app/profile/steamdb.info/post/3lu32vdlsmg27).After looking at the game list, I fully support this and urge anyone who doesn't to look at the banned games.
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   [Source](https://bsky.app/profile/steamdb.info/post/3lu32vdlsmg27).Gamers on Lemmy think Steam is THEIR corporation and Gabe is THEIR billionaire. You get downvoted for criticizing steam for anything, or even pointing out that they’re a corporation run by a billionaire and they don’t actually care about you.
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This doesn't sound like a good idea in any way. Why the fuck do banks get to say how my money is used? They can literally eat my shit.
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Incorrect! Bitcoin transactions take 10 FUCKING MINUTES.The costs are much worse than the time imo.
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Yes, Valve and Visa/MasterCard differ massively in their service. Valve operates a store within a specific industry, Visa/MasterCard process payments across our whole society. It should be clear to anyone that payment providers must be held to a much stricter standard and have certain requirements of neutrality imposed on them. If not then in the best case you risk destroying the "free market" part of free market capitalism, worst case you're weakening democracy by letting unelected, unaccountable people decide what is and what isn't legal.Well I find it a bit ironic to invoke the "free market" while simultaneously asserting they should be free to choose who they go to market with. Isn't the point of the "free market" that if Visa or Mastercard won't facilitate the needs of the market, someone else will?
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After looking at the game list, I fully support this and urge anyone who doesn't to look at the banned games.yup. there's a whole bunch of people who will cry 'but this slippery slope' - sorry your incest twins use too much lube, that freaky slope is your problem, not Steam's. get over yourselves. it's a private company, nothing compels it to carry your daddy twins incest shit.
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Why shouldn't the payment processors get a say in the payments they process? Illegal or not, why should they be forced to process payments that facilitate things against their beliefs? Steam could pursue other payment processing possibilities instead of acquiescing to their demands.> Steam could pursue other payment processing possibilities instead of acquiescing to their demands. why is valve obligated to serve up this garbage? simply not being party to it is the best answer.
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   [Source](https://bsky.app/profile/steamdb.info/post/3lu32vdlsmg27).Oh shit, I saw that the original Leisure Suit Larry games are no longer for sale... wonder if this is why?
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> Steam could pursue other payment processing possibilities instead of acquiescing to their demands. why is valve obligated to serve up this garbage? simply not being party to it is the best answer.If you mean the games in question, well they aren't obligated and they've clearly chosen they don't care to bother anymore.
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   [Source](https://bsky.app/profile/steamdb.info/post/3lu32vdlsmg27).
