I appreciate the answer! I myself am not a vegan at all, in practice, though I am familiar with ... many of the frames that you can look at meat consumption through, and, correctly, imo, conclude that it is a wasteful, destructive, and morally dubious practice... and I do try to minimize my meat intake, but its fairly difficult when I am disabled, don't have a car, can't do meal prep due to injuries. I've been moving toward a lot more shelf stable, basic type stuff lately, beans... but also spam, so, yeah, I am not a vegan. But uh, the 'if it tries to run away' metric seems to be roughly where I would land on this as well... I guess I would just the line a bit higher than ... a clam... I personally would think that... basically most insects (ararchnids are another story)... from what I understand of their neurology... they do not really seem to be capable of suffering... https://www.sciencealert.com/insects-probably-do-feel-pain-similar-to-how-we-do-scientists-argue Well fuck, I am generally apparently wrong about that. Thank you, and again the other replier, for spurring me to give this subject more consideration.