[There are people here who've probably never seen the greatest review of the worst RPG of all time.](https://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/14/14567.phtml) >There is no God, and the proof of this can be found in a .pdf file from Fatal Games.

Jesus. I thought Lamentations of the Flame Princess was bad...

Thanks for the write up, it sounds like it’s maximum value is as kindling… But what’s wrong with the RimWorld dev, am I ootl here?

Rimworld was originally coded so that all women were at least slightly bisexual, if not fully gay, while all men were either gay or straight. According to the creator - who vociferously defended this stance claiming it was based on "research" - bisexual men like me don't exist. That's honestly just the start of the rabbit hole. The game was hardcoded so that men always prefer younger partners and women always prefer older partners. Also women were eight times less likely to be willing to hit on someone. This is, to be clear, supposed to be a scifi game set in the future, but modelling sexual politics apparently taken from 1980's TV. There's an amazing breakdown of the whole thing here; https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/rimworld-code-analysis You can find the creator of Rimworld in the comments defending all of his nonsense and making a total ass of himself in the process. Unfortunately the rest of the comments are a total shitshow. I'm told they eventually changed some of this stuff after enough backlash, years later, for whatever that's worth. Maybe the creator actually did some learning and growing, and if so, good for them.

It's ALWAYS a horror show with FATAL. I've blocked EVERY group that invites people to fatal and my life is better for it. Mr Lake and Mr Foot? (no first names) Rot in prison you creepy fuxks. I would make a joke about kissing my ass, but discussions about FATAL often include a need for anal circumference. No thanks.

At this point I feel the rpg culture should be firmly separated again from the mainstream only to have the mainstream stand between itself and this kind of awfulness.

Gonna recommend Red Markets again to everyone. There's a bunch of stuff in there about like, negotiating new jobs and prices and stuff, which is cool, but the combat and everything is all boiled down to a single dice roll. One Black d10, one red d10. Add any modifiers, and if black is higher than red, you succeed. In combat, if it hits, the black shows how much damage and the red shows what body part. This makes combat soooooo much more fluid than most of the DnD games i've played.

Harping on rimworld, One of the most moddable games ever made, for the creator not understanding the depths of human sexuality is a little obtuse to say the least. There are a lot of things that people won't understand and there are so many mods to resolve this it seems silly to expect the creator to "get it". I've been around gay and trans people my entire life but I still don't think that I fully understand human sexuality or our cultural relationships with gender norms. Undoubtedly if I were to architect something like Rimworld I would get it wrong but I hope I would have the foresight to leave an amendment process so that it could be modded into fitting with people's understanding in the future.

It's not even a fucking rpg since *everything* is a diceroll. It's like pen and paper progress quest.

I didn't even get into how the underlying system is abysmally bad even when you try to strip away all the gross shit. Like, stats are generated by rolling 10d100/10-1. Yes, you read that correctly. Then there are five derived attributes generated as an average of four base stats, so if something modifies a base stat you have to recalculate the derived stat, but then those derived stats also set things like your carry weight, so you have to recalculate that and... It's exhausting. Combat is atrocious. There are criticals, but they have no relation to each other, so you can cleave through someone's appendix and their belly button but leave everything in between untouched. Magic requires you to roll to see if you say the words correctly. The whole thing is an ungodly nightmare.

My issue isn't with the mechanics; yes, I'm sure that stuff can be modded. My issue is with the idea that I should give my money to someone who will actively defend the claim that I do not exist. Put it this way; if there were no non-white people in Rimworld, and the reason why was because the creator firmly believed that by the time humanity gets to space white people would have "won the race war and exterminated all the scum" would you still feel comfortable giving that person your money just because "I can mod that out"?

There are groups that actually *play* FATAL? Terrifying.

[voroxpete@sh.itjust.works](https://wanderingadventure.party/user/voroxpete%40sh.itjust.works) said in [Just don't](https://wanderingadventure.party/post/https%3A%2F%2Fsh.itjust.works%2Fcomment%2F21617016): > According to the creator - who vociferously defended this stance claiming it was based on “research” - bisexual men like me don’t exist. I, too, spent much time 15 year ago sitting at the back of the bus reading Savage Love on my way to work. Research scientists, unite!

Honestly FATAL isnt even fun to read its just mad cringe. Like the most in depth look into the mind of an incel.

> "How RimWorld's Code Defines Strict Gender Roles", it's catnip power words for the polar outrage mafiosi camps. That weird comment, my sides. I don't know why I haven't heard about it, but it's very fascinating to see dev's biases leaking into their product just like that.

How about some RIFTS?

Roll for the pen. Also roll for the paper.

>I swear to God even the Rimworld guy had more brains than this. Well now I am wondering wtf the Rimworld guy did that has them being mentioned alongside this utter trash of a tabletop system.

I actually feel better about having pirated the game instead of paying for it. It also explains why the base game and all the DLC are around the same price and it never fucking goes on sale.