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THIS is why cleaning is so difficult.

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  • DingoE Dingo

    @futurebird
    Or, drill a hole in one end, attach a string & make bullroarers out of them?
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullroarer

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    @electric_gumball

    That's a good idea. I have them make right angles using "the Egyptian method" by tying knots and this would be a nice way to store that device after you make it.

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      The whole idea of the lesson, which I'm very passionate about is making irrational numbers like root two and root three seem... real. Both as "real numbers" but also as ... real numbers, physical distances that make as much sense as 4 cm or 1/3 of an inch.

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      @futurebird Also, slide rules (some marking needed).

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      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

        The whole idea of the lesson, which I'm very passionate about is making irrational numbers like root two and root three seem... real. Both as "real numbers" but also as ... real numbers, physical distances that make as much sense as 4 cm or 1/3 of an inch.

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        @futurebird YEAH!! YEAH!! THIS IS RADICAL!! There's literally nothing that says we can't put algebraic numbers on a ruler!! 😁

        Slide rules already do this with e and pi and conversion factors to/from arcminutes and arcseconds!

        What I'd love to see is a "complex ruler". A combination ruler and protractor that can "measure" a complex number in its polar form (slightly more advanced than studying them in cartesian form, but makes them A LOT easier to conceive as actual numbers imho)

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        • Riley S. FaelanR Riley S. Faelan

          @futurebird Also, slide rules (some marking needed).

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          @futurebird You probably know it already, but just in case —

          before modern slide rulers were invented, Napier literally sold multiplication sticks, marked with discrete integers.

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          Napier's Bones -- from Wolfram MathWorld

          Napier's bones, also called Napier's rods, are numbered rods which can be used to perform multiplication of any number by a number 2-9. By placing "bones" corresponding to the multiplier on the left side and the bones corresponding to the digits of the multiplicand next to it to the right, and product can be read off simply by adding pairs of numbers (with appropriate carries as needed) in the row determined by the multiplier. This process was published by Napier in 1617 an a book...

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          • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

            THIS is why cleaning is so difficult. I bought these blank ruler-sized pieces of wood six years ago. I have an idea for a lesson where students use a compass to create a ruler, including irrational numbers, such as square root of two I should write the lesson up and make the sample ruler **or** throw these away. I will write myself a note about this and put them in the “soon trash” box. I need to be ruthless!

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            @futurebird
            dinosaurs are planning to rule the world again and I think if you're not using these rulers for anything important, you should donate them to the dinosaur cause.

            #dinosaurs

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            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

              The whole idea of the lesson, which I'm very passionate about is making irrational numbers like root two and root three seem... real. Both as "real numbers" but also as ... real numbers, physical distances that make as much sense as 4 cm or 1/3 of an inch.

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              @futurebird I love this. They can also practice geometry as they make it.

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              • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                THIS is why cleaning is so difficult. I bought these blank ruler-sized pieces of wood six years ago. I have an idea for a lesson where students use a compass to create a ruler, including irrational numbers, such as square root of two I should write the lesson up and make the sample ruler **or** throw these away. I will write myself a note about this and put them in the “soon trash” box. I need to be ruthless!

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                @futurebird

                How can you put an irrational number on a ruler ?
                I mean, boundaries for the number I get, but the number itself ?

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                • Lien RagL Lien Rag

                  @futurebird

                  How can you put an irrational number on a ruler ?
                  I mean, boundaries for the number I get, but the number itself ?

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                  @lienrag

                  Make a square that is 1cm by 1cm then use a compass to mark the diagonal on the ruler at root 2cm

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                  • Roj 🏳️‍🌈M Roj 🏳️‍🌈

                    @futurebird I love this. They can also practice geometry as they make it.

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                    @mathcolorstrees @futurebird Oh hey not to butt in like an idiot (butts in like an idiot) but yesterday someone posted something titled ‘geometric shapes’ and I wondered 🤔 Are there any non-geometric shapes?

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                    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                      @lienrag

                      Make a square that is 1cm by 1cm then use a compass to mark the diagonal on the ruler at root 2cm

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                      @futurebird

                      Isn't that luring the kids ?
                      The size of the mark will be the boundaries, but IIRC there's no way to put the exact number on the ruler.

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                      • Lien RagL Lien Rag

                        @futurebird

                        Isn't that luring the kids ?
                        The size of the mark will be the boundaries, but IIRC there's no way to put the exact number on the ruler.

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                        @lienrag

                        Well in that sense you can't make a ruler for ANY number.

                        It's as good as any other mark you might make on the ruler done this way IMO.

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                        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                          The whole idea of the lesson, which I'm very passionate about is making irrational numbers like root two and root three seem... real. Both as "real numbers" but also as ... real numbers, physical distances that make as much sense as 4 cm or 1/3 of an inch.

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                          @futurebird
                          I wonder if it would be more effective to get blank 45 45 90 triangles and label the hypotenuse in terms of √2 ?

                          Unfortunately that's probably harder.

                          That said - I think I've seen circle and a matched tape labeled in terms of π . A choice of radiant beauty.

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                          • Riley S. FaelanR Riley S. Faelan

                            @futurebird You probably know it already, but just in case —

                            before modern slide rulers were invented, Napier literally sold multiplication sticks, marked with discrete integers.

                            Link Preview Image
                            Napier's Bones -- from Wolfram MathWorld

                            Napier's bones, also called Napier's rods, are numbered rods which can be used to perform multiplication of any number by a number 2-9. By placing "bones" corresponding to the multiplier on the left side and the bones corresponding to the digits of the multiplicand next to it to the right, and product can be read off simply by adding pairs of numbers (with appropriate carries as needed) in the row determined by the multiplier. This process was published by Napier in 1617 an a book...

                            favicon

                            (mathworld.wolfram.com)

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                            @riley @futurebird

                            everybody knows
                            about Napier's bones
                            you could multiply
                            and you could divide
                            you could even extract
                            the square root
                            such sweet sweet necromancy

                            but nobody knows about
                            Genaille–Lucas rulers
                            with which you could save
                            a little addition on the way
                            at the price of a
                            much more complicated name
                            and no allusion
                            to death
                            and what the dead might say

                            #poetry
                            #math

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