Everyone keeps saying "Iran must not have a nuclear weapon."
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Everyone keeps saying "Iran must not have a nuclear weapon."
And while this statement is something many people would agree with they aren't all agreeing for the same reasons.
The general public in the US is *scared* of "Nuclear Iran" (some bigotry informs this) --the war hawks aren't scared. They think they are playing chess, believe they can dictate the balence of power through "surgical*" force.
They have failed and we've watched it happen.
*there is nothing surgical about it
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Everyone keeps saying "Iran must not have a nuclear weapon."
And while this statement is something many people would agree with they aren't all agreeing for the same reasons.
The general public in the US is *scared* of "Nuclear Iran" (some bigotry informs this) --the war hawks aren't scared. They think they are playing chess, believe they can dictate the balence of power through "surgical*" force.
They have failed and we've watched it happen.
*there is nothing surgical about it
Many "scary" nations that don't like the US have horrible weapons. So what?
You will die because they close the dialysis clinic in your small town, not because of Iran.
These guys will cheerfully kill tens if not 100k civilians just to have the edge in negotiations about who makes money off the tankers and who gets the plumb trade deals.
The ideological battles are a smoke screen to make Americans scared enough to let them play risk with our lives.
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Many "scary" nations that don't like the US have horrible weapons. So what?
You will die because they close the dialysis clinic in your small town, not because of Iran.
These guys will cheerfully kill tens if not 100k civilians just to have the edge in negotiations about who makes money off the tankers and who gets the plumb trade deals.
The ideological battles are a smoke screen to make Americans scared enough to let them play risk with our lives.
My general impression is also that many Israeli believe that Iran _will_ use nuclear weapons to destroy Israel sooner or later, if they get them.
I am not saying that they are right, but this is what they believe.
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Many "scary" nations that don't like the US have horrible weapons. So what?
You will die because they close the dialysis clinic in your small town, not because of Iran.
These guys will cheerfully kill tens if not 100k civilians just to have the edge in negotiations about who makes money off the tankers and who gets the plumb trade deals.
The ideological battles are a smoke screen to make Americans scared enough to let them play risk with our lives.
And it's not even like losing economic dominance would make them poor. Just not as obscenely rich.
Every nation should be constantly engaged in the process of reducing the number of nuclear weapons on the planet.
Instead we keep demonstrating that nations that don't have such power will be manipulated, and ordered around, attacked without provocation.
Is the US public falling for it again?
We get NOTHING if this goes perfectly. And worse that nothing if it fails.
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And it's not even like losing economic dominance would make them poor. Just not as obscenely rich.
Every nation should be constantly engaged in the process of reducing the number of nuclear weapons on the planet.
Instead we keep demonstrating that nations that don't have such power will be manipulated, and ordered around, attacked without provocation.
Is the US public falling for it again?
We get NOTHING if this goes perfectly. And worse that nothing if it fails.
@futurebird Zero-Zero is the only option. Nobody has them.
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My general impression is also that many Israeli believe that Iran _will_ use nuclear weapons to destroy Israel sooner or later, if they get them.
I am not saying that they are right, but this is what they believe.
Yeah and a lot of people in the US think the same way which is even more wild.
But this isn't about technology. It's about negotiation and finding reasons to depend on each other instead of hurting each other.
Iran should be an important trade partner for all of these nations to the degree that no one would dream of starting a war because everyone is too busy making dialysis machines.
... or something.
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@futurebird Zero-Zero is the only option. Nobody has them.
This is correct, but we aren't going that way. And I think some of these hawk types dread the thought of peace because peace means that everyone slowly grows more powerful and prosperous. EVERYONE. and they can't abide the thought of not having a total monopoly on economic and military power.
