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Steam is cracking down on porn games, to keep Payment Processors happy.
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Incorrect! Bitcoin transactions take 10 FUCKING MINUTES.
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These payment processors are businesses. They provide a service. Like valve does. It seems to me like you're making an argument for valve, but not for these other businesses which only differ in the service they provide. If your point is "our society is too dependant on a small selection of payment processors and we need better options," that's a separate discussion and one I don't think I'd disagree with.Well I think bottom line is that's the rub, the burden to become a payment provider is high... which it should be, but that's because we need pretty damn good regulations on them (as obviously if their security goes to crap, the consiquences are insanely high). In addition it kind of is a small group by design because, we can't have it as a large group. If we have a nice even spread across 50 payment processors, then either everyone needs 50 credit cards, or every service that needs to be paid needs contracts with 50 payment services.
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Incorrect! Bitcoin transactions take 10 FUCKING MINUTES.
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These payment processors are businesses. They provide a service. Like valve does. It seems to me like you're making an argument for valve, but not for these other businesses which only differ in the service they provide. If your point is "our society is too dependant on a small selection of payment processors and we need better options," that's a separate discussion and one I don't think I'd disagree with.Yes, Valve and Visa/MasterCard differ massively in their service. Valve operates a store within a specific industry, Visa/MasterCard process payments across our whole society. It should be clear to anyone that payment providers must be held to a much stricter standard and have certain requirements of neutrality imposed on them. If not then in the best case you risk destroying the "free market" part of free market capitalism, worst case you're weakening democracy by letting unelected, unaccountable people decide what is and what isn't legal.
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   [Source](https://bsky.app/profile/steamdb.info/post/3lu32vdlsmg27).After looking at the game list, I fully support this and urge anyone who doesn't to look at the banned games.
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   [Source](https://bsky.app/profile/steamdb.info/post/3lu32vdlsmg27).Gamers on Lemmy think Steam is THEIR corporation and Gabe is THEIR billionaire. You get downvoted for criticizing steam for anything, or even pointing out that they’re a corporation run by a billionaire and they don’t actually care about you.
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This doesn't sound like a good idea in any way. Why the fuck do banks get to say how my money is used? They can literally eat my shit.
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Incorrect! Bitcoin transactions take 10 FUCKING MINUTES.The costs are much worse than the time imo.
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Yes, Valve and Visa/MasterCard differ massively in their service. Valve operates a store within a specific industry, Visa/MasterCard process payments across our whole society. It should be clear to anyone that payment providers must be held to a much stricter standard and have certain requirements of neutrality imposed on them. If not then in the best case you risk destroying the "free market" part of free market capitalism, worst case you're weakening democracy by letting unelected, unaccountable people decide what is and what isn't legal.Well I find it a bit ironic to invoke the "free market" while simultaneously asserting they should be free to choose who they go to market with. Isn't the point of the "free market" that if Visa or Mastercard won't facilitate the needs of the market, someone else will?
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After looking at the game list, I fully support this and urge anyone who doesn't to look at the banned games.yup. there's a whole bunch of people who will cry 'but this slippery slope' - sorry your incest twins use too much lube, that freaky slope is your problem, not Steam's. get over yourselves. it's a private company, nothing compels it to carry your daddy twins incest shit.
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Why shouldn't the payment processors get a say in the payments they process? Illegal or not, why should they be forced to process payments that facilitate things against their beliefs? Steam could pursue other payment processing possibilities instead of acquiescing to their demands.> Steam could pursue other payment processing possibilities instead of acquiescing to their demands. why is valve obligated to serve up this garbage? simply not being party to it is the best answer.
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   [Source](https://bsky.app/profile/steamdb.info/post/3lu32vdlsmg27).Oh shit, I saw that the original Leisure Suit Larry games are no longer for sale... wonder if this is why?
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> Steam could pursue other payment processing possibilities instead of acquiescing to their demands. why is valve obligated to serve up this garbage? simply not being party to it is the best answer.If you mean the games in question, well they aren't obligated and they've clearly chosen they don't care to bother anymore.
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   [Source](https://bsky.app/profile/steamdb.info/post/3lu32vdlsmg27).
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   [Source](https://bsky.app/profile/steamdb.info/post/3lu32vdlsmg27).
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 ::: spoiler Transcript nickyflowers: It would be cool if websites let you be an adult on them. The advertisers and payment processors need everything to be Family Friendly though their definitions of family and friendly are fucked. But since they're in charge of the Internet now, no one is allowed to be an adult. TikTokers say things like "unalive" and "seggs" because they know death and sex are too adult for online. Online is for idiot babies only now because they're easier to market to. nickyflowers: Oh I'm sorry you're a *trans* adult? Super ban. You are super banned for life. You have upset Visa's feelings. Mastercard is throwing up in the corner. How could you *do* this to Google Ads? :::Absolutely spot on. It reminds me of a comment I saw somewhere on here a few months ago where some clown used "seggs" and someone else responded to them and said they can just say sex because there aren't any algorithms here that would cause problems for them. The clown has a complete meltdown and ranted and raved in response about how they've been using "seggs" long before the internet or some wild shit like that and how dare anyone tell them that they don't have to use it here. The really fucked up thing was that he got a bunch of up votes and the person they lost their minds on was down voted to hell. I felt like I was losing my mind reading that interaction.
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Gamers on Lemmy think Steam is THEIR corporation and Gabe is THEIR billionaire. You get downvoted for criticizing steam for anything, or even pointing out that they’re a corporation run by a billionaire and they don’t actually care about you.
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On the one hand, oh noz, the incest games. Who will live without the low effort AI goon crap? On the other hand, why do the payment companies get to dictate what sales are made? It's my fucking money, or my fucking store. It's not the job of the payment processors to determine if I'm buying illegal goods, just that the money goes from me to the store.
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   [Source](https://bsky.app/profile/steamdb.info/post/3lu32vdlsmg27).If they’re going to enforce that rule impartially, they’ll have to ban Crusader Kings III as well.
