I will call "No Kings" a big success.
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@Npars01 @raven667 @futurebird
What should we do instead of general strikes and boycotts?
@Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @futurebird
Recommendations?
Try it all, until something clicks with billionaires. It's going to take a lot to break through to MAGA billionaires
They're very insulated from backlash & they own a media ecosystem that servilely serves up self-soothing lies
In the past, global financial meltdowns & world wars did the trick, ... eventually
Try the tactics of the Simple Sabotage Manual & escalate up to massing troops on the border to free folks from fascist overlords
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@Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @futurebird
Recommendations?
Try it all, until something clicks with billionaires. It's going to take a lot to break through to MAGA billionaires
They're very insulated from backlash & they own a media ecosystem that servilely serves up self-soothing lies
In the past, global financial meltdowns & world wars did the trick, ... eventually
Try the tactics of the Simple Sabotage Manual & escalate up to massing troops on the border to free folks from fascist overlords
@Npars01 @raven667 @futurebird
I like the idea of trying everything non-violently.
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@Npars01 @raven667 @futurebird
I like the idea of trying everything non-violently.
@Dave_Goldsmith @Npars01 @raven667
Do you have a union at your job? Or in your industry? I think rebuilding unions is important. Even fast food workers made some progress on this front.
There are jobs where it can be harder to organize.
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@cvvhrn @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01
We almost did a teacher's strike once, but they caved at the last moment. We had to do a lot of prep to be ready and frankly I was very happy we didn't need to walk out.
I like my job!
Strikes take a collective will.
@futurebird @cvvhrn @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01
Back in the 1980s we had rolling strikes in teaching.
Odd days, mornings and afternoons rather than going out on strike long term eg the crippling miners strike against Thatcher's govt. -
@futurebird @cvvhrn @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01
Back in the 1980s we had rolling strikes in teaching.
Odd days, mornings and afternoons rather than going out on strike long term eg the crippling miners strike against Thatcher's govt.@Godfrey642 @futurebird @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01 From a nursing standpoint, the rolling stuff does not seem to work. We are an independent union but the dominant large nurses union uses the 1 day strikes a lot.
For hospitals at least most can cancel electives and hold on for a day but open ended is much harder for them
To be fair its hard on everybody
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@Godfrey642 @futurebird @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01 From a nursing standpoint, the rolling stuff does not seem to work. We are an independent union but the dominant large nurses union uses the 1 day strikes a lot.
For hospitals at least most can cancel electives and hold on for a day but open ended is much harder for them
To be fair its hard on everybody
@cvvhrn @futurebird @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01
Im not a fan of open ended strikes at all.
My husb and i were both teachers in the UK. We had 3 young children so losing multiple days earnings in a teachers strike had massive knock-on for us.
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@cvvhrn @futurebird @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01
Im not a fan of open ended strikes at all.
My husb and i were both teachers in the UK. We had 3 young children so losing multiple days earnings in a teachers strike had massive knock-on for us.
It's not sustainable for most workers.@Godfrey642 @futurebird @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01
I hear you and we struggle as well but in my direct experience (2 strikes 2000 56 days and 2022 5 days) it works and like you my wife is a nurse at the same facility so we get hit x2
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@Godfrey642 @futurebird @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01
I hear you and we struggle as well but in my direct experience (2 strikes 2000 56 days and 2022 5 days) it works and like you my wife is a nurse at the same facility so we get hit x2
@cvvhrn @futurebird @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01
We used to alternate days... it wasn't ideal by *any* means and being a scab on the days in was v v hard. Not bringing in money wasn't an option either.
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@cvvhrn @futurebird @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01
We used to alternate days... it wasn't ideal by *any* means and being a scab on the days in was v v hard. Not bringing in money wasn't an option either.
@Godfrey642 @cvvhrn @futurebird @raven667 @Npars01
Do you think the idea of a once a month general strike is Impractical or impossible? What about once a quarter?
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@Godfrey642 @cvvhrn @futurebird @raven667 @Npars01
Do you think the idea of a once a month general strike is Impractical or impossible? What about once a quarter?
@Dave_Goldsmith @Godfrey642 @cvvhrn @raven667 @Npars01
I think strikes should have a demand, something reasonable but significant and they should last until it is met (and maybe spread to additional unions if the demand isn't met.)
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@Dave_Goldsmith @Godfrey642 @cvvhrn @raven667 @Npars01
I think strikes should have a demand, something reasonable but significant and they should last until it is met (and maybe spread to additional unions if the demand isn't met.)
@futurebird @Godfrey642 @cvvhrn @raven667 @Npars01
What would be a good demand for a general strike?
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@futurebird @Godfrey642 @cvvhrn @raven667 @Npars01
What would be a good demand for a general strike?
@Dave_Goldsmith @futurebird @Godfrey642 @cvvhrn @raven667
To start?
1. Free & fair elections
2. Eradication of the Unitary Executive ideology
3. Outlawing Citizens United
4. Impartial redistricting boards
5. Mandatory ethical standards for SCOTUS
6. Reaffirmation of NATO
7. Expansion of the courts
8. Eradication of the Federalist Society
9. Campaign finance transparency
10. Restoration of Civil Rights
11. Recriminalization of public corruption & bribery1/
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@Dave_Goldsmith @futurebird @Godfrey642 @cvvhrn @raven667
To start?
1. Free & fair elections
2. Eradication of the Unitary Executive ideology
3. Outlawing Citizens United
4. Impartial redistricting boards
5. Mandatory ethical standards for SCOTUS
6. Reaffirmation of NATO
7. Expansion of the courts
8. Eradication of the Federalist Society
9. Campaign finance transparency
10. Restoration of Civil Rights
11. Recriminalization of public corruption & bribery1/
@Npars01 @Dave_Goldsmith @Godfrey642 @cvvhrn @raven667
This is a great list... for a party platform.
For a strike demand you want something that sounds modest. ONE thing. A simple thing. A thing that requires no legal subterfuge.
It's more important that the first demand is met to prove that the strike can work. Or that's how I think of this.