...I can take him

IIRC it was made official

I like this, but I prefer Cthulhu with its strong-but-somehow-possible statblock that also lists as as damage "1D4 investigators (player characters) per round".

Absolutely. There's a bit more drama in a mechanic that is comically unfair but still somewhat cinematic. This kind of sheet makes for a good punchline, but you would have far more fun as an ST (or a player) encountering a being with a stat block that makes a more subtle mockery of the very mechanics of the game. * Presence: Make a Wits + Ettiquette Dif 20 or Character must spend the failure difference in turns genuflecting and begging forgiviness is the Enochian tongue. Gain a dot of Linquistics (Enochian) if they do not have it * Auspex + Celerity: Perceive the full bloodline of target character, up to 10 years per success back in time. Select any sire along the line and destroy it. Target character is no longer a Vampire. Age newly mortal target accordingly. * Obliteration: Eaten by your own shadow, no resistance.

Not ending well in either interpretation of that sentence.

When you're Dark Fate 5 you have to welcome death in all it's forms.

I read the Demeanor as something VERY different than curmudgeon on my first try

Tryign to take Caine is not Dark Fate, it's "Nature suffers fools briefly".

... I mean, that is one of the themes of VtM.

Here is the [original source](https://mrgone.rocksolidshells.com/pdf/VtM/Caine.pdf).

[Huh, well I'll be.](https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Cab_Driver)

A Malkavian PC figures out who their cabbie is late in the game and goes into a fit of screaming terror. Caine politely waits for them to finish.

yeah but if you get him down to Flesh Wound that's kinda a win

I loved playing as a Malkavian. My late best friend said that it might not be best to play as a Malkavian for one's first run at the game because of all the weird shit, and I replied "oh, now that's sealed it for me, I've got to pick Malkavian". I like how a perceptive player of a Malkavian can pick up so many hints and clues. Like how >!your character refers to Therese and Jeanette as "daughters of Janus", or how the thinblood Malkavian near the start of the game says "don't open it"!<