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PirateSoftware Leaves OffBrand Games as Stop Killing Games Reaches Goal

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    I'm pretty sure this is the same guy who was ranting about Godot "being woke" last year lol
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    >The YouTuber noted that his opinion on the initiative has led players to review-bomb the company's new releases. To avoid further harm to their reputation, he's terminated the partnership indefinitely. "I am no longer working at Offbrand Games," The damage is done now. He isn't likable, took a big loss on his part, almost took down his collabs with himself. Let this be a lesson in being humble about your public appearence. He's essentially being featured in some questionable forums, I believe. This was absolutely not worth it for him.
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      > "This initiative can eat my ass, the whole thing. It can eat my entire ass" Do you have the clip/video source of this quote? I didn't see him say that in his critique videos I watched. I need context to judge it. But at face value, I would still call that within the realms of normal criticism yes. He disagrees with the basis of the initiative. And disagreement doesn't mean that one or the other party is necessarily mistaken or that they are maliciously refusing to admit their mistake if unconvinced. They can just disagree. And even if they were being malicious or ignorant or too embarassed to admit their mistake, so what? Just don't engage, or argue in good faith. No need to swat the guy, make death threats, make weird personal attacks against him, or drag his name through the dirt across the entire internet because he is wrong or doesn't suck it up and tell you that you are right.
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      > This initiative can eat my ass, the whole thing. It can eat my entire ass [https://youtu.be/GuTp4Am51i0?t=395](https://youtu.be/GuTp4Am51i0?t=395) Its like the most used clip in almost any coverage of this, I don't get why you keep asking as if its not a well documented thing.
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        > This initiative can eat my ass, the whole thing. It can eat my entire ass [https://youtu.be/GuTp4Am51i0?t=395](https://youtu.be/GuTp4Am51i0?t=395) Its like the most used clip in almost any coverage of this, I don't get why you keep asking as if its not a well documented thing.
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        I am also trying to figure it out, but the link you linked specifically contains quotes taken out of context entirely, choppily edited together. Personally I never trust shit like that. If you quote someone and don't give a link to full context, it's either because you don't care or because you're hiding something, and neither is good.
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          I am also trying to figure it out, but the link you linked specifically contains quotes taken out of context entirely, choppily edited together. Personally I never trust shit like that. If you quote someone and don't give a link to full context, it's either because you don't care or because you're hiding something, and neither is good.
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          Not in the slightest in this case. He very much did say that live and also still stands by what was said. The idea that you need someone to walk you though it to such a degree is odd and likely is because you are looking for a particular reality that you can agree with. Like I could understand if we were talking about some event that had opposing claims here, but in this case the man in question does not even deny that was what he said. And if you want "the context" more then what was on that clip, the live stream was just that he was made aware of the campaign and this is how he reacted.
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            > This initiative can eat my ass, the whole thing. It can eat my entire ass [https://youtu.be/GuTp4Am51i0?t=395](https://youtu.be/GuTp4Am51i0?t=395) Its like the most used clip in almost any coverage of this, I don't get why you keep asking as if its not a well documented thing.
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            You act like I'm living in the same rage mill you all are. Clearly I'm not. I'm familiar with PirateSoftware, but I dont follow all this shit. It is rage that has apparently been festering over a year and I am only just learning about it over the last week or two as the petition was hitting its goal, much of which I spent 16+ days working in the family fireworks stores. I am also at work now, about to leave. I googled the quote on my lunch break and couldn't find the video. Forgive me for asking for a source so I could see for myself.
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              You act like I'm living in the same rage mill you all are. Clearly I'm not. I'm familiar with PirateSoftware, but I dont follow all this shit. It is rage that has apparently been festering over a year and I am only just learning about it over the last week or two as the petition was hitting its goal, much of which I spent 16+ days working in the family fireworks stores. I am also at work now, about to leave. I googled the quote on my lunch break and couldn't find the video. Forgive me for asking for a source so I could see for myself.
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              Rage mill? The only one here that seems to be getting upset is you. This is likely the end of pirate software (at least as he was), there is no rational reason to try and pick fights over this.
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                I'm pretty sure this is the same guy who was ranting about Godot "being woke" last year lol
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                Let's brigade people more for speaking and thinking differently. There should only be one correct opinion and anyone who disagrees should be shunned.
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                  Rage mill? The only one here that seems to be getting upset is you. This is likely the end of pirate software (at least as he was), there is no rational reason to try and pick fights over this.
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                  Where do you get that I'm picking fights? I'm telling people they need to calm down over a complete non-issue.
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                    Let's brigade people more for speaking and thinking differently. There should only be one correct opinion and anyone who disagrees should be shunned.
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                    your takeaway from individual people being unhappy after everything that has come to light about an individual popular person is missing the actual situation/thing that is happening right in front of you? quite a bit more went on than "differing opinion" and even then people are luckily allowed to be upset about that since this is an influential person, welcome to the internet.
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                      Where do you get that I'm picking fights? I'm telling people they need to calm down over a complete non-issue.
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                      And I am telling you (not likely the only one) that this is very much a real issue. What you are looking at is someone killing their career over the need of their ego to double down over and over. They have become a figurehead of the worst part of the games industry. This is not going to "go away" anytime soon, and as Thor is still digging deeper will only get worse. I mean this guy was just about the *only* opponent to this petition, he went *HARD* and is now being dumped on.
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                        And I am telling you (not likely the only one) that this is very much a real issue. What you are looking at is someone killing their career over the need of their ego to double down over and over. They have become a figurehead of the worst part of the games industry. This is not going to "go away" anytime soon, and as Thor is still digging deeper will only get worse. I mean this guy was just about the *only* opponent to this petition, he went *HARD* and is now being dumped on.
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                        Again, I ask. Who cares? Like you said, he's the only one. The Petition is successful. His career is in shambles. Why is everyone still shitting on the guy. Why are people still posting about him and harassing him and the studio he worked for. Why not just move on even though he continues to disagree with you. How does that affect anyone now?
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                          Again, I ask. Who cares? Like you said, he's the only one. The Petition is successful. His career is in shambles. Why is everyone still shitting on the guy. Why are people still posting about him and harassing him and the studio he worked for. Why not just move on even though he continues to disagree with you. How does that affect anyone now?
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                          Again, I answer. A lot of people. This man has allowed his hubris and ego to destroy him, a story people like to see. The petition is not yet done and is now getting hate articles done on it (odd that). People are still posting about him as he is now the poster child of a shitty industry most dislike. The harassing of the studio he worked for is news to me (and I think a lot of people as it does not seem to have yet happened). People who "move on" like you are talking about are a modern day plague, its how we get the absolute clown world we now live in. Have some principle and integrity.
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                            > "This initiative can eat my ass, the whole thing. It can eat my entire ass" Do you have the clip/video source of this quote? I didn't see him say that in his critique videos I watched. I need context to judge it. But at face value, I would still call that within the realms of normal criticism yes. He disagrees with the basis of the initiative. And disagreement doesn't mean that one or the other party is necessarily mistaken or that they are maliciously refusing to admit their mistake if unconvinced. They can just disagree. And even if they were being malicious or ignorant or too embarassed to admit their mistake, so what? Just don't engage, or argue in good faith. No need to swat the guy, make death threats, make weird personal attacks against him, or drag his name through the dirt across the entire internet because he is wrong or doesn't suck it up and tell you that you are right.
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                            It was said during streams, but yes, I did find a video that captured it, the clips of the quotes end at about 7 min and start from where I linked. https://youtu.be/GuTp4Am51i0?t=371 Yes. People can disagree, disagreeing doesn't mean someone must be wrong or mistaken. But in this case. He very much was wrong and mistaken. And you don't have to try and strawman this. I have neither harassed, swated, or made any threats, at all, against him. Nor have I ever advocated for it. I have also not claimed anyone deserves that treatment.
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                              It was said during streams, but yes, I did find a video that captured it, the clips of the quotes end at about 7 min and start from where I linked. https://youtu.be/GuTp4Am51i0?t=371 Yes. People can disagree, disagreeing doesn't mean someone must be wrong or mistaken. But in this case. He very much was wrong and mistaken. And you don't have to try and strawman this. I have neither harassed, swated, or made any threats, at all, against him. Nor have I ever advocated for it. I have also not claimed anyone deserves that treatment.
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                              Thank you for the link. > And you don't have to try and strawman this. I have neither harassed, swated, or made any threats, at all, against him. Nor have I ever advocated for it. I have also not claimed anyone deserves that treatment. Didn't say that you are. But for some reason you are arguing with me while I'm just saying that he doesn't deserve all that. If we agree on that don't know why you're concerned with my comments.
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                                Thank you for the link. > And you don't have to try and strawman this. I have neither harassed, swated, or made any threats, at all, against him. Nor have I ever advocated for it. I have also not claimed anyone deserves that treatment. Didn't say that you are. But for some reason you are arguing with me while I'm just saying that he doesn't deserve all that. If we agree on that don't know why you're concerned with my comments.
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                                When you're telling me there's no need to swat him, that implies that I seem to think that there is. Because why else would you bring up such a negative action and explain it's something we don't need to do?
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                                  Care to elaborate on what he said and how it was wrong? Or....
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                                  He pretended like this would force studios to publish sourcecode and that they have to give up on drm. I am not shure if he or someone else said this but someone also pretendet like new laws would somehow retroactivly apply to all games and now sstudios would have to give up server code that propably has thrid party software in it that they dont have the right license to just release it.( this is also a point i read alot from comments everywwhere and its stupid.) First, anny new law will take a ton of time untill it iss written then passed and then goes into effect. If this law passes studios will know way in advanced that upcoming releases in the eu would be under this new law and therefore can take this into account when builsing their infrastructure for online play/drm like in case of the crew. Also anyone who is active in piracy forums where devs work on stuffk ows that they dont need aourcecode to get it running. People will chow through assembly if they want to make a game work, some decompiled lego island over the course of a year to preserve it.
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                                    Let's brigade people more for speaking and thinking differently. There should only be one correct opinion and anyone who disagrees should be shunned.
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                                    You mean "lets have people say whatever they want without any consequences or repercussions, no matter how wrong or hurtful they are"?
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                                      When you're telling me there's no need to swat him, that implies that I seem to think that there is. Because why else would you bring up such a negative action and explain it's something we don't need to do?
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                                      My point was that this rage mill has produced a lot of extreme negativity and this post, among others, and the comment thread within, is propogating it. And, as far as I can tell, it is over, at best, Thor taking the possibilities of this petition as written to the extreme to illustrate his concerns for its vagueness. And even if he is dead wrong, completely mistaken, and now knows it and won't admit to it, that does not, in anyway, justify the position he is put in now. I'm not say that you personally support him being swatted, or getting death threats, but not letting this shit go after a year of bullshit, letting it fester and boosting the rage, that's what leads to that shit. Just let it go.
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                                        Again, I answer. A lot of people. This man has allowed his hubris and ego to destroy him, a story people like to see. The petition is not yet done and is now getting hate articles done on it (odd that). People are still posting about him as he is now the poster child of a shitty industry most dislike. The harassing of the studio he worked for is news to me (and I think a lot of people as it does not seem to have yet happened). People who "move on" like you are talking about are a modern day plague, its how we get the absolute clown world we now live in. Have some principle and integrity.
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                                        That's a pretty twisted way to view the world. We are fundamentally different kinds of people. I think are done here. No way we will agree on anything if that's how you think.
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                                          It was said during streams, but yes, I did find a video that captured it, the clips of the quotes end at about 7 min and start from where I linked. https://youtu.be/GuTp4Am51i0?t=371 Yes. People can disagree, disagreeing doesn't mean someone must be wrong or mistaken. But in this case. He very much was wrong and mistaken. And you don't have to try and strawman this. I have neither harassed, swated, or made any threats, at all, against him. Nor have I ever advocated for it. I have also not claimed anyone deserves that treatment.
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                                          Update: only just got a chance to watch it and his "eat my entire ass comment" seems not to be related to the initiative itself but to the way Ross framed how the initiative was going to be easy to make into law becuase of a bunch of really weird reasons unrelated to the merit of the initiative that seemed very backhanded and sketchy. I completely agree that Ross's comment were incredibly slimy and cynical even as I still mostly agree with the initiative. Just seems like people are taking the comment out of that context and getting pissed over something he didnt actually say or mean about the initiative itself.
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