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PirateSoftware Leaves OffBrand Games as Stop Killing Games Reaches Goal
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So... I actually tinker around in Godot. Whilst looking around to see if anyone had, or was developing an extension I would find useful... I discovered 'Redot'. Basically, there is a small but very vocal group of people who are very, very angry that a Godot community manager made some pro LGBT, inclusive twitter posts, turned that into a culture war flare up on twitter... And then forked Godot. To make the anti-woke version of Godot. Their youtube channel has, as best I can tell, absolutely no descriptions of any substantial differences from... you know, an actual game engine feature set perspective. Beyond of course being behind Godot now, lol. What they do have is a bunch of rants about politics and edrama for their 'non-political' game engine. Also... they pronounce Redot as Re-Dot, hard t. Godot is Godot as in Waiting for Godot. Go - Dough. God - Oh. ... of course these idiots are literally uncultured and have never read the screenplay or seen the stage play, so they have no idea how to pronounce the word. smdhPerhaps Thor is Pozzo.
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Why do you people care?
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Why do you people care?
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Curiosity
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Ok, I'll look more into that to better understand if that is the case. But even if he was wrong about everything, why is such a misunderstanding worth the drama and backlash? Everybody is truly up in arms over what seems like pretty mild criticism even if that criticism is all mistaken. Especially if it is all mistaken, really."Not only do I not support this, I will go out of my way to tell people not to" "This initiative can eat my ass, the whole thing. It can eat my entire ass" That's not mild criticism in my world. About something that he did not even understand in the first place as many things he complained about was things the initiative literally said they were NOT trying to do. But hey. Sometimes people can be wrong. We make mistakes. But when someone refuses to acknowledge they were mistaken and instead double down. That's when people get upset.
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Curiosity
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As far as I've seen, the only thing PirateSoftware did "wrong" was point out some unintentional consequences that would fall on indie developers given the language used in SKG as written, and get a bit personal in his criticism of Ross Scott, and everyone has lost their minds on the dude. Idgaf about personal beef between creators and I agree with his concerns for indie developers. Even if I didn't, he's said nothing do inflammatory as to earn all this stood drama. Chill the fuck out.So "eat my entire ass" is not inflammatory now? Good to know. Even of he did not say that, if he really wanted to give positive criticism he wouldn't advocate against it entirely. Your happy medium is correct, he was 100% against it from the beginning. Not coming from anger or anything like that, just pointing out that you implied he was in the happy medium when he isn't.
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Honestly, very smart and humble move, he certainly got hit with a ton of bad press for his opposition to the petition and that would have impacted the game studio's sales.
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Again, not taking the "he's definitely wrong" stance at face value. I'll decide for myself. Reasonable people can disagree and both br "right" from their perspectives. Regardless, who gives a fuck if one person is wrong and doubles down on being wrong when they have no authority to stop this movement (clearly, as it has been quite successful regardless of his opinion). That shit happens 1 million times a day on the internet, and often from big names too. The facts is that, generally, he is an ally to the gaming community, particularly for indie gaming, and this is in-fighting bullshit. > He also lied and said community is attacking him to see if that will hurt the movement. Community in fact did not attack him. They are attacking him now, here, publically dragging him through the dirt, and I've seen it elsewhere as well for the last week or two. What are you talking about? Why are we talking about him now if not becuase people are pissed off and hating on him?Yeah people take accountability tho. He did not say "oh sorry I did not read the slides where it specifically said the movement is NOT about what I thought." He just insisted he is right. Also for the attacking part I wad referring to the accused reviewbombing of his studio/publisher. Sorry for not being clear.
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Yeah people take accountability tho. He did not say "oh sorry I did not read the slides where it specifically said the movement is NOT about what I thought." He just insisted he is right. Also for the attacking part I wad referring to the accused reviewbombing of his studio/publisher. Sorry for not being clear.
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That doesn’t make sense
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So "eat my entire ass" is not inflammatory now? Good to know. Even of he did not say that, if he really wanted to give positive criticism he wouldn't advocate against it entirely. Your happy medium is correct, he was 100% against it from the beginning. Not coming from anger or anything like that, just pointing out that you implied he was in the happy medium when he isn't.
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So I’m confused what exactly did he dislike about the movement? Seems like a solid one to me.
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"Not only do I not support this, I will go out of my way to tell people not to" "This initiative can eat my ass, the whole thing. It can eat my entire ass" That's not mild criticism in my world. About something that he did not even understand in the first place as many things he complained about was things the initiative literally said they were NOT trying to do. But hey. Sometimes people can be wrong. We make mistakes. But when someone refuses to acknowledge they were mistaken and instead double down. That's when people get upset.> "This initiative can eat my ass, the whole thing. It can eat my entire ass" Do you have the clip/video source of this quote? I didn't see him say that in his critique videos I watched. I need context to judge it. But at face value, I would still call that within the realms of normal criticism yes. He disagrees with the basis of the initiative. And disagreement doesn't mean that one or the other party is necessarily mistaken or that they are maliciously refusing to admit their mistake if unconvinced. They can just disagree. And even if they were being malicious or ignorant or too embarassed to admit their mistake, so what? Just don't engage, or argue in good faith. No need to swat the guy, make death threats, make weird personal attacks against him, or drag his name through the dirt across the entire internet because he is wrong or doesn't suck it up and tell you that you are right.
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So I’m confused what exactly did he dislike about the movement? Seems like a solid one to me.Basically he is not happy with the wording of the initiative. He had a 10 minute follow up video after he had a knee jerk reaction and went to into personal attacks against the guy that thought of the movement. I'm going to get to roasted for this but watching his video I see what he's worried about. I agree that this industry has scummy practices but this bill is going to be a monkeys paw scenario. I would love for this bill to go through in a perfect world but as of now companies are doing layoffs and closing and adding in more red tap and financial burden will mean more projects will be cancelled or won't be released in certain areas because it's not going to be financially I'm open to have my mind changed as I don't have any insight on what happens behind the scenes in these operations but I think people looked at a PowerPoint that said "gamers are getting fucked over" (which is true when live service games close) and signed something that COULD make studios rally around their legal team and financial departments to make things worse. Pirate also didn't do himself favors by being not media trained and careful with his words but now he's dealing with SWATing, death threats, harassment, and losing his job over an opinion that's honestly from a perspective of someone that has worked in that industry for a long while vs a community know for being miserable and ready with pitchforks over stupid shit.
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> So "eat my entire ass" is not inflammatory now? Do you have the clip/video source of this quote? I didn't see him say that in his critique videos I watched. I need context to judge it.He did say that in his first video, but came out with a more reflective video which you probably saw. Regardless, the fact he's dealing with such fall out over an opinion in an industry he's active in and getting ousted is dumb. Everyone is losing their minds over this but like everything people will move on to something else in a month.
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Basically he is not happy with the wording of the initiative. He had a 10 minute follow up video after he had a knee jerk reaction and went to into personal attacks against the guy that thought of the movement. I'm going to get to roasted for this but watching his video I see what he's worried about. I agree that this industry has scummy practices but this bill is going to be a monkeys paw scenario. I would love for this bill to go through in a perfect world but as of now companies are doing layoffs and closing and adding in more red tap and financial burden will mean more projects will be cancelled or won't be released in certain areas because it's not going to be financially I'm open to have my mind changed as I don't have any insight on what happens behind the scenes in these operations but I think people looked at a PowerPoint that said "gamers are getting fucked over" (which is true when live service games close) and signed something that COULD make studios rally around their legal team and financial departments to make things worse. Pirate also didn't do himself favors by being not media trained and careful with his words but now he's dealing with SWATing, death threats, harassment, and losing his job over an opinion that's honestly from a perspective of someone that has worked in that industry for a long while vs a community know for being miserable and ready with pitchforks over stupid shit.
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He did say that in his first video, but came out with a more reflective video which you probably saw. Regardless, the fact he's dealing with such fall out over an opinion in an industry he's active in and getting ousted is dumb. Everyone is losing their minds over this but like everything people will move on to something else in a month.
