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Borderlands 2 is temporarily free to grab on Steam, as it continues to be review bombed for non-Randy Pitchford tweet reasons

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  • Z zess@lemmy.world
    The thing of it is, Steam reviews are entirely subjective. They don't ask if the game is good or worth playing, they ask if you'd recommend it to others. And whether or not you recommend a game can depend on things other than the way the game plays. I changed my recommendation on Borderlands 2 because I don't recommend anyone gives a single cent to Gearbox for any reason.
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    "I cannot recommend Borderlands 2 despite it being a great game, because by giving it a 'not recommended' I can make Randy Pitchford cry."
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      Does the same logic apply to the "woke nonsense" reviews for The Last of Us Part 2 when it was released, or any media featuring a minority group for that matter?
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      [Gamers love woke nonsense. ](https://store.steampowered.com/app/2124380/Super_Lesbian_Animal_RPG/) 🤷 Well, I'm not going to pretend you don't have a point. Anything popular enough is going to attract some sort of hate. But I'd argue that being woke is not enough to get your game review bombed.
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        So you can't play with friends? Isn't that like half of the fun of Bonerlands?
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        Can't complain about the single player half of the fun at the price of free, though. The game is so old, it should run fine even in a VM.
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          absolutely worth it to get, btw. still play it to this day. and Borderlands 3 I think is like 2 dollars on steam at the moment. *absolutely* grab that.
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          I suppose you didn’t hear about the new EULA for Take-Two/2K/Rockstar games eh? Long story short they have explicit permission to install a root kit on your system which is a popular type of malware. If the developers knowingly install a root kit on your system and someone who is savvy enough decides to abuse it, well… let’s just say the outcome isn’t pretty for the end-user. I love BL1 & BL2 but this is justification to put those games to rest or run them offline or in LAN.
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          • M mossy_@lemmy.world
            [Gamers love woke nonsense. ](https://store.steampowered.com/app/2124380/Super_Lesbian_Animal_RPG/) 🤷 Well, I'm not going to pretend you don't have a point. Anything popular enough is going to attract some sort of hate. But I'd argue that being woke is not enough to get your game review bombed.
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            My point to OP was that review bombing is, by definition, malicious. Sure, some companies can claim their game was "review bombed" because they don't like the legitimate criticism of their game, but what it really is when bad actors leave fake reviews because they don't like the game for reasons beyond the mechanics or systems.
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              I suppose you didn’t hear about the new EULA for Take-Two/2K/Rockstar games eh? Long story short they have explicit permission to install a root kit on your system which is a popular type of malware. If the developers knowingly install a root kit on your system and someone who is savvy enough decides to abuse it, well… let’s just say the outcome isn’t pretty for the end-user. I love BL1 & BL2 but this is justification to put those games to rest or run them offline or in LAN.
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              claiming so i can drop a negative review, i guess they didnt think about that thorough huh
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                Free spyware! LOL What a way to spin things, devs. Well played! /s
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                The actual game files for Borderlands 2 haven’t been updated in several years. Sure, you could argue that the new TOS is just setting things up to quietly slip the spyware in later after the attention has waned. But as it currently stands, all of the new TOS stuff was just bringing their older games up to match their newer releases that are still being actively supported. Chances are very good that they never actually update Borderlands 2, and simply use the new TOS for future releases; It’s simply an indicator that their future releases will have some gnarly anti cheat bullshit bolted on. But that doesn’t make headlines, nor does it fuel gamers’ nebulous rage. And yes, the “chances are good” part means the chance is a non-zero number. If I told someone “the chances are good that this bowl of skittles won’t kill you,” how many skittles would you be inclined to eat?
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                  Tbh i never played the series with friends so i wouldnt know, was just fun collecting guns shooting things and hacking in super combos.
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                  That’s a shame, because the series truly shines with multiplayer. It turns a grindy incremental loot game into a reason to hang out with friends. Probably a tenth of my friends list on Steam came from joining random public Borderlands games, and just hanging out with whoever happened to be playing.
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                    It’s because it isn’t. There is no kernel level anticheat or admin requirements as people keep suggesting . And the only things it sends back to gearbox is related to game functions: - your steam friends list so it can check if they have a gearbox account - in game chat - which level in the game you’re currently on I literally went to the point of packet inspection and found nothing to be concerned about.
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                    >And the only things it sends back to gearbox is related to game functions: For BL2. This is the data they're going to collect in the new game(hint, it's "everything"): https://www.take2games.com/privacy/en-US/
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                      My point to OP was that review bombing is, by definition, malicious. Sure, some companies can claim their game was "review bombed" because they don't like the legitimate criticism of their game, but what it really is when bad actors leave fake reviews because they don't like the game for reasons beyond the mechanics or systems.
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                      It's a form of protest. And like with all protests, some are right, some are wrong. It's not always bad actors.
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                        My point to OP was that review bombing is, by definition, malicious. Sure, some companies can claim their game was "review bombed" because they don't like the legitimate criticism of their game, but what it really is when bad actors leave fake reviews because they don't like the game for reasons beyond the mechanics or systems.
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                        They literally turned the game into spyware and are distributing it by giving it away for free. How does that fit your description in any way?
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                          I suppose you didn’t hear about the new EULA for Take-Two/2K/Rockstar games eh? Long story short they have explicit permission to install a root kit on your system which is a popular type of malware. If the developers knowingly install a root kit on your system and someone who is savvy enough decides to abuse it, well… let’s just say the outcome isn’t pretty for the end-user. I love BL1 & BL2 but this is justification to put those games to rest or run them offline or in LAN.
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                          i know about that. i also know its quite overblown. their EULA is no different than all of them. but no malware has been installed.
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                            Buuuuuuuuuut they changed the EULA and how it has root level access to your system. As in its literally spyware. Fuck free. You couldn't pay me to install this shit. Do so at your own risk. I want less massive corporations rooting around in my stuff. Not more.
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                              The actual game files for Borderlands 2 haven’t been updated in several years. Sure, you could argue that the new TOS is just setting things up to quietly slip the spyware in later after the attention has waned. But as it currently stands, all of the new TOS stuff was just bringing their older games up to match their newer releases that are still being actively supported. Chances are very good that they never actually update Borderlands 2, and simply use the new TOS for future releases; It’s simply an indicator that their future releases will have some gnarly anti cheat bullshit bolted on. But that doesn’t make headlines, nor does it fuel gamers’ nebulous rage. And yes, the “chances are good” part means the chance is a non-zero number. If I told someone “the chances are good that this bowl of skittles won’t kill you,” how many skittles would you be inclined to eat?
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                              If their future releases need root level access they can keep them. No thank you.
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                              • woelkchen@lemmy.worldW woelkchen@lemmy.world
                                Can't you just grab it and then restrict its internet access?
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                                Grab it so you own it then torrent a non-spyware version.
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                                  > You will not use exploits or illegal or unauthorised means to interfere with or adversely impact any other user’s ability to use the services as intended; to gain unfair gameplay advantage; or to gain access to virtual items or other content to which you do not have valid entitlement. This includes the use of cheats or so-called ‘mod menus’, unauthorised mods, hacks, glitches, or any other technical exploits, and phishing, scamming, or social engineering. In legalese, does 'this includes' mean 'additionally' or 'specifically'?
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