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Thoughts on preemptively banning Gen-AI?

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    That would depend on the wording of the general rule, which would depend on what exactly it's trying to accomplish.
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      I'm afraid the result will be exactly opposite. A lot of smaller creators use AI in some form (some better, some worse), where one most probably won't ban D&D from community named "rpg" because, even with the hatred from non-D&D crowd, the interest is too big to not address it
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      If someone doesn't care enough about their product to actually do work on it, why should I care about looking at it? If I wanted to see AI generated slop, I'd go to one of the many megacorps that'll generate it for me rather than paying some guy on Itch.io.
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        Wouldn't that mean that only those who are big enough to afford commissioning art (or not be afraid to lie about generating it) will pass?
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        Public domain or stock images combined with an afternoon of Gimp/Krita. Had a friend who started with no experience and they managed to make some damn professional looking art for their playbook.
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          Presumably ensuring that other types of content don't get crowded out. I'm not sure how a general anti-spam rule would manage that. The solution I've seen elsewhere is to restrict certain types of content (like meme posts) to specific days of the week
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            thanks; that was a typo. I have edited it to upvoted, which is what I intended.
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              Yes, one can do that. But, probably because of how content ( in broad meaning) works, it's not being done. That's why I'm afraid such rule would mostly cut out the small-fries
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                Public domain or stock images combined with an afternoon of Gimp/Krita. Had a friend who started with no experience and they managed to make some damn professional looking art for their playbook.
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                I'm afraid they are an exception to what is happening
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                  I am fine with that. ![](https://slrpnk.net/api/v3/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redsharknews.com%2Fhubfs%2FT-1000_terminator.jpg)
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                    Just because you generally need a cover image doesn't mean that it's good to support systems whose primary use case is to drive real artists into hiding.

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                    Sure. But wouldn't such rule mean we dismiss also those who do bring something to the table but just try to get anyone's attention?
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                      Sure. But wouldn't such rule mean we dismiss also those who do bring something to the table but just try to get anyone's attention?
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                      Not if they don't scam people to do it.

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                        If someone doesn't care enough about their product to actually do work on it, why should I care about looking at it? If I wanted to see AI generated slop, I'd go to one of the many megacorps that'll generate it for me rather than paying some guy on Itch.io.
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                        That is right. But that is not what all AIGen stuff is. If someone creates a cool adventure but uses AIGen to make their fluff box sound like a radio speaker because they lack the skills to make it so, is that a not caring enough?
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                          This is indeed the thing, there is a long road between using an AI powered spell checker, and a full AI generated game. Let's go further, if a volunteer uses their deepl subscription to translate an indie game they like (with the author's permission) , and do a manual review afterward. The kind of stuff you can sometimes do for your player, is it AI slop?
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                          Exactly. I think that the issue is not black and white
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                            That is right. But that is not what all AIGen stuff is. If someone creates a cool adventure but uses AIGen to make their fluff box sound like a radio speaker because they lack the skills to make it so, is that a not caring enough?
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                            Nope, it isn't.

                            Cheaters should never be allowed to prosper. It undermines the entire idea that creative work is of value, and will inevitably lead to a day when artists are seen as as much of a piece of scum on someone's shoe as cashiers are.

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                              That's great. And it should be encouraged. But what about modern+ settings?
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                                Not if they don't scam people to do it.

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                                I'm afraid that's a very high bar ATM
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                                  Nope, it isn't.

                                  Cheaters should never be allowed to prosper. It undermines the entire idea that creative work is of value, and will inevitably lead to a day when artists are seen as as much of a piece of scum on someone's shoe as cashiers are.

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                                  I think we are way past the point when creative work is enough
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                                    I think we are way past the point when creative work is enough
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                                    So you're arguing so hard to replace artists because you already don't value them?

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                                      I'm afraid that's a very high bar ATM
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                                      It's meant to be a high bar forever.

                                      "Generative AI" is a scam perpetrated by people who hate artists, while envying their capacity to create art, while also not understanding what art really is. Period.

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                                        That's great. And it should be encouraged. But what about modern+ settings?
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                                        Oh definitely, it's not a universal solution. Just figured I'd mention a less obvious option that has helped me out before
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                                          That is a straw man. I never said banning non open source. I equated corporate "AI" with the corporate practice of stealing open source projects.
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