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"The cost to use AI is currently artificially low but, on the other hand, the demand is also low."

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  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

    "The cost to use AI is currently artificially low but, on the other hand, the demand is also low."

    Is... that that really an "other hand" it sounds like it's the same hand?

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    @futurebird perhaps it is one of those AI hands with either 3 or 14 fingers?

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    • TimoT Timo

      @futurebird perhaps it is one of those AI hands with either 3 or 14 fingers?

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      @timo21

      Listen. Hands are HARD. The next update will address this I'm certain.

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      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

        "The cost to use AI is currently artificially low but, on the other hand, the demand is also low."

        Is... that that really an "other hand" it sounds like it's the same hand?

        Alien software, human hardwareM This user is from outside of this forum
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        @futurebird the thing is, the one hand is in someone's pocket, and the other hand is at the end of a shoulder that shrugs.

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        • Alien software, human hardwareM Alien software, human hardware

          @futurebird the thing is, the one hand is in someone's pocket, and the other hand is at the end of a shoulder that shrugs.

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          @mavu

          Which one is the famous "invisible hand"?

          I worry a lot about the "invisible hand" everyone says it's wonderful but the only thing I can think of with invisible hands are ghosts and aren't ghosts scary?

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          • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

            "The cost to use AI is currently artificially low but, on the other hand, the demand is also low."

            Is... that that really an "other hand" it sounds like it's the same hand?

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            @futurebird

            I can argue it either way. Same hand: prices and sales are low, and AI is not making enough money to break even. Other hand: despite artificially low prices, people aren't buying.

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            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

              "The cost to use AI is currently artificially low but, on the other hand, the demand is also low."

              Is... that that really an "other hand" it sounds like it's the same hand?

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              @futurebird
              as far as I can tell, microsoft has already shifted to "charge people for *not* using it". And I suspect there are enough other companies going that direction to make it the overall industry direction.

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              • llewellyL llewelly

                @futurebird
                as far as I can tell, microsoft has already shifted to "charge people for *not* using it". And I suspect there are enough other companies going that direction to make it the overall industry direction.

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                @llewelly

                This is hell.

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                • C++ Wage SlaveC C++ Wage Slave

                  @futurebird

                  I can argue it either way. Same hand: prices and sales are low, and AI is not making enough money to break even. Other hand: despite artificially low prices, people aren't buying.

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                  @CppGuy @futurebird even the people that make it don't know what it's for. "We've invented this thing that's hugely inefficient and expensive to use, and we don't know why, but if we hype it up massively, make it free, and make it seem like The Future Is Robots maybe people will invent a use for it that we can monetise?"

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                  • FlicF Flic

                    @CppGuy @futurebird even the people that make it don't know what it's for. "We've invented this thing that's hugely inefficient and expensive to use, and we don't know why, but if we hype it up massively, make it free, and make it seem like The Future Is Robots maybe people will invent a use for it that we can monetise?"

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                    @Flisty @CppGuy

                    I've already agreed that I like the "talking spellchecker" ... is it supposed to be more than that?

                    Of course I used to be able to use google like a talking spellcheker but now it over-corrects and redirects what I type so aggressively it can't do that anymore. So I suppose we need all those data centers to replace the broken search engines. šŸ˜ž

                    (I'm being silly if it isn't obvious)

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                    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                      @Flisty @CppGuy

                      I've already agreed that I like the "talking spellchecker" ... is it supposed to be more than that?

                      Of course I used to be able to use google like a talking spellcheker but now it over-corrects and redirects what I type so aggressively it can't do that anymore. So I suppose we need all those data centers to replace the broken search engines. šŸ˜ž

                      (I'm being silly if it isn't obvious)

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                      @Flisty @CppGuy

                      This is a bit in the tone of "the cupholder" (but the cupholder was actually useful for other things...)

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                      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                        @Flisty @CppGuy

                        I've already agreed that I like the "talking spellchecker" ... is it supposed to be more than that?

                        Of course I used to be able to use google like a talking spellcheker but now it over-corrects and redirects what I type so aggressively it can't do that anymore. So I suppose we need all those data centers to replace the broken search engines. šŸ˜ž

                        (I'm being silly if it isn't obvious)

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                        @futurebird @CppGuy I am old enough to remember spellcheck being The Editor Replacer. Turns out it has only fully replaced copyeditors in low-margin publishing, with bad results. Everywhere else it's Just Another Tool, as is Excel over handwritten spreadsheets. It will increase productivity when used with expertise, but it will also increase capacity to make big errors. A run-of-the-mill competence multiplier like all the other office tools we have.

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                        • FlicF Flic

                          @CppGuy @futurebird even the people that make it don't know what it's for. "We've invented this thing that's hugely inefficient and expensive to use, and we don't know why, but if we hype it up massively, make it free, and make it seem like The Future Is Robots maybe people will invent a use for it that we can monetise?"

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                          @Flisty I was just watching a video (that could have been a blog post) on the accountability paradox. They never tell you what it is for, because the minute they do that there’s criteria for success, failure, good, bad. So they just kinda say ā€œhere it is, take it as is and go find great uses for it.ā€ But they never say ā€œgreat uses like X, which it is really good atā€ because they can’t.

                          (Apologies if one of you put that video in my feed yesterday, and here I am telling about it today! I do that sometimes.)
                          @CppGuy @futurebird

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                          • Paco Hope wishes ill for JK RowlingP Paco Hope wishes ill for JK Rowling

                            @Flisty I was just watching a video (that could have been a blog post) on the accountability paradox. They never tell you what it is for, because the minute they do that there’s criteria for success, failure, good, bad. So they just kinda say ā€œhere it is, take it as is and go find great uses for it.ā€ But they never say ā€œgreat uses like X, which it is really good atā€ because they can’t.

                            (Apologies if one of you put that video in my feed yesterday, and here I am telling about it today! I do that sometimes.)
                            @CppGuy @futurebird

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                            @paco @CppGuy @futurebird add to that "in the future, it will be able to do X" which is essential Muskology

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                            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                              "The cost to use AI is currently artificially low but, on the other hand, the demand is also low."

                              Is... that that really an "other hand" it sounds like it's the same hand?

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                              @futurebird reminds me of this... which is also not entirely real tech

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                              • Flaming CheetoP Flaming Cheeto

                                @futurebird reminds me of this... which is also not entirely real tech

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                                @PizzaDemon

                                When I was at a little bookstore up in Halifax I found a book from The Museum of Jurassic Technology. It was an old-looking book and *claimed* to be from the 1930s. It was a catalog of the Museum with descriptions of the offerings. I was skeptical, but California is a very strange place, so I thought it might be real.

                                I decided NOT to look it up and just see what I could make of the object itself. Got about halfway in before I realized "Artists did this."

                                Magnificent!

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                                • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                  @PizzaDemon

                                  When I was at a little bookstore up in Halifax I found a book from The Museum of Jurassic Technology. It was an old-looking book and *claimed* to be from the 1930s. It was a catalog of the Museum with descriptions of the offerings. I was skeptical, but California is a very strange place, so I thought it might be real.

                                  I decided NOT to look it up and just see what I could make of the object itself. Got about halfway in before I realized "Artists did this."

                                  Magnificent!

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                                  @futurebird @PizzaDemon
                                  I have conflicted feelings about it, because I've met so many people whose knowledge of the actual Jurassic, and of biology and history in general, is so bad they'd have no idea it wasn't intended to be scientifically true.

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                                  • llewellyL llewelly

                                    @futurebird @PizzaDemon
                                    I have conflicted feelings about it, because I've met so many people whose knowledge of the actual Jurassic, and of biology and history in general, is so bad they'd have no idea it wasn't intended to be scientifically true.

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                                    @llewelly @PizzaDemon

                                    I was so disappointed that the deeply eccentric west coast "intellectuals" that the book implied might be real... didn't really exist.

                                    I wanted to imagine them having a seance in the Winchester mansion to better understand billion year old motors.

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                                    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                      @llewelly @PizzaDemon

                                      I was so disappointed that the deeply eccentric west coast "intellectuals" that the book implied might be real... didn't really exist.

                                      I wanted to imagine them having a seance in the Winchester mansion to better understand billion year old motors.

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                                      @futurebird @PizzaDemon
                                      I got caught in the tar pit of trying to figure out what paleontological sites a Los Angeles based organization would be physically nearby.

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                                      • llewellyL llewelly

                                        @futurebird @PizzaDemon
                                        I got caught in the tar pit of trying to figure out what paleontological sites a Los Angeles based organization would be physically nearby.

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                                        @llewelly @PizzaDemon

                                        I love the tar pits! Can't get enough of them.

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                                        • FlicF Flic

                                          @paco @CppGuy @futurebird add to that "in the future, it will be able to do X" which is essential Muskology

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                                          @paco @CppGuy @futurebird so far only Elizabeth Holmes has been punished for this practice, but it's absolutely the same thing that Musk and Altman do.

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