I'm watching a video about "the crown of St Wenceslas" which is from 1346 in Prague.
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@futurebird Egads. No, I think you're being generous. The artisan's vision for that thing is not something I understand at all.
There are many things much older that still impress me today. Something about the polished but uncut gems and the flatness of the gold just feels ... low effort?
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I'm watching a video about "the crown of St Wenceslas" which is from 1346 in Prague. All these comments and the guy in the video keeps saying how 'beautiful' it is and I'm just not seeing it? Ugliest thing I've ever seen in my life.
I guess it's "beautiful" that it's from 1346 and so well preserved. And naturally it's not made for the "modern eye". But... good lord. It's like someone broke a stain glass window and cleaned it up with tape.
Am I being unfair?
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I'm watching a video about "the crown of St Wenceslas" which is from 1346 in Prague. All these comments and the guy in the video keeps saying how 'beautiful' it is and I'm just not seeing it? Ugliest thing I've ever seen in my life.
I guess it's "beautiful" that it's from 1346 and so well preserved. And naturally it's not made for the "modern eye". But... good lord. It's like someone broke a stain glass window and cleaned it up with tape.
Am I being unfair?
Is that a hinge in the lower slightly right?
And are those pearls supposed to rattle?
Other than which, chances are it was intended to be seen at a distance, not photographed and put on the Net for close-ups. And maybe intended to reflect torchlight or oil-wick light in a way which lesser mortals didn't.
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I'm watching a video about "the crown of St Wenceslas" which is from 1346 in Prague. All these comments and the guy in the video keeps saying how 'beautiful' it is and I'm just not seeing it? Ugliest thing I've ever seen in my life.
I guess it's "beautiful" that it's from 1346 and so well preserved. And naturally it's not made for the "modern eye". But... good lord. It's like someone broke a stain glass window and cleaned it up with tape.
Am I being unfair?
@futurebird In fairness, can anyone show an example of a crown that *isn't* tacky?
I mean... that's kinda the defining feature of a crown?
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There are many things much older that still impress me today. Something about the polished but uncut gems and the flatness of the gold just feels ... low effort?
@futurebird Right, it's a visual jumble that may have been the height of avant-garde minimalism in 1346 or whatever, but it's giving a slapdash vibe like bad fast-fashion.
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@futurebird In fairness, can anyone show an example of a crown that *isn't* tacky?
I mean... that's kinda the defining feature of a crown?
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Is that a hinge in the lower slightly right?
And are those pearls supposed to rattle?
Other than which, chances are it was intended to be seen at a distance, not photographed and put on the Net for close-ups. And maybe intended to reflect torchlight or oil-wick light in a way which lesser mortals didn't.
I mean to be fair no one knows what the king looks like exactly, so you really did need to have a distinctive hat that screams "KING ITS ME" so... job done I guess?
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I'm watching a video about "the crown of St Wenceslas" which is from 1346 in Prague. All these comments and the guy in the video keeps saying how 'beautiful' it is and I'm just not seeing it? Ugliest thing I've ever seen in my life.
I guess it's "beautiful" that it's from 1346 and so well preserved. And naturally it's not made for the "modern eye". But... good lord. It's like someone broke a stain glass window and cleaned it up with tape.
Am I being unfair?
A few people have suggested it was meant to be "seen from a distance" and "in candle and torchlight for reflections"
And that's an OK theory... but if someone said that about my face I would not think it was a compliment.
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@futurebird
I'd wear it.I'd sell it.
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I'd sell it.
(looks around nervously for history heads...whispering)
I'd make it into 900,000 heart stints and some nice tooth fillings.
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@futurebird I think you're being *too* fair. It's hideous. Szent István's crown in Hungary is even older, yet is refined and tasteful.
I agree it looks better.
Also, it bothers me way more than it should that the cross is crooked
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I agree it looks better.
Also, it bothers me way more than it should that the cross is crooked
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I'm watching a video about "the crown of St Wenceslas" which is from 1346 in Prague. All these comments and the guy in the video keeps saying how 'beautiful' it is and I'm just not seeing it? Ugliest thing I've ever seen in my life.
I guess it's "beautiful" that it's from 1346 and so well preserved. And naturally it's not made for the "modern eye". But... good lord. It's like someone broke a stain glass window and cleaned it up with tape.
Am I being unfair?
@futurebird Maybe it's not quite so ugly, but this is the crown of the Holy Roman Emperors in Vienna. It looks like something a bunch of elementary school kids made with macaroni and glitter glue.
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I'm watching a video about "the crown of St Wenceslas" which is from 1346 in Prague. All these comments and the guy in the video keeps saying how 'beautiful' it is and I'm just not seeing it? Ugliest thing I've ever seen in my life.
I guess it's "beautiful" that it's from 1346 and so well preserved. And naturally it's not made for the "modern eye". But... good lord. It's like someone broke a stain glass window and cleaned it up with tape.
Am I being unfair?
@futurebird one of the joys of the past is realizing that aesthetics are not objective. This crown is beautiful because it's got so many stones on it. It's so big! Look at how shiny it is. More is more.
Yeah this isn't our aesthetics, but for this guy it ruled. Heck he made the walls of the chapel he built to house his Pokemon collection, I mean, his relic collection look like gems in gold.
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I'm watching a video about "the crown of St Wenceslas" which is from 1346 in Prague. All these comments and the guy in the video keeps saying how 'beautiful' it is and I'm just not seeing it? Ugliest thing I've ever seen in my life.
I guess it's "beautiful" that it's from 1346 and so well preserved. And naturally it's not made for the "modern eye". But... good lord. It's like someone broke a stain glass window and cleaned it up with tape.
Am I being unfair?
@futurebird it looks like it's from the 1950s, and worn by a 'space king' in a Monsterdon film.
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@futurebird one of the joys of the past is realizing that aesthetics are not objective. This crown is beautiful because it's got so many stones on it. It's so big! Look at how shiny it is. More is more.
Yeah this isn't our aesthetics, but for this guy it ruled. Heck he made the walls of the chapel he built to house his Pokemon collection, I mean, his relic collection look like gems in gold.
@astory @futurebird Not sure if I should thank you or curse you but now I will forever think of catholic saints as Pokemon.
After all they all have their special "power"! -
@astory @futurebird Not sure if I should thank you or curse you but now I will forever think of catholic saints as Pokemon.
After all they all have their special "power"!@astory @futurebird That's it, my imagination is going wild.
Now I'm thinking of a game where you play saints to fight evil, each saints having its own skills, attributes and stats.
There's no way nobody ever thought of doing that. A Vatican-approved RPG. -
@astory @futurebird That's it, my imagination is going wild.
Now I'm thinking of a game where you play saints to fight evil, each saints having its own skills, attributes and stats.
There's no way nobody ever thought of doing that. A Vatican-approved RPG.Pilgrims were just roaming pokemon trainers looking for more powerful saints to add to their collection.
Wenceslas used "Dazzle"
It is not very effective.
