A middle school student just tried to tell me “guns and roses” was “country music”
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@mattmcirvin @futurebird @geoffduncan Oh yeah, basically, anything in or around the Adirondacks mostly counted. At least, to anyone who didn't draw a hard line at the NYS border.
(And certainly did _not_ count to the extremists who excised Hartford and Boston, tho' I can sympathise with anyone who wants to excise Connecticut in general. xD )
@moira @futurebird @geoffduncan Refusing to admit Boston as part of New England does seem pretty extreme!
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@geoffduncan @futurebird From a chat with with some born and bred New Yorkers as in NYC, some years ago:
Them: "How do _you_ pronounce Schenectady?"
Me: "I don't, I usually say Poughkeepsie or Leonardsville and nobody knows the difference."
Them: "EXACTLY. Because all those fucking upstate towns are EXACTLY THE SAME."
Excuse me what.
If I went for a nice weekend in Saratoga but ended up in Albany I would not be happy.
But the real wild ones will call Yonkers “upstate” — I know people in the Bronx who do this.
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Excuse me what.
If I went for a nice weekend in Saratoga but ended up in Albany I would not be happy.
But the real wild ones will call Yonkers “upstate” — I know people in the Bronx who do this.
@futurebird @moira @geoffduncan
If it's in New York state, on the US mainland, and the MTA (including metro north) can't get me there, it's upstate
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@futurebird @moira @geoffduncan
If it's in New York state, on the US mainland, and the MTA (including metro north) can't get me there, it's upstate
This is exactly why they keep posting that damn cartoon.
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@moira @futurebird @geoffduncan Refusing to admit Boston as part of New England does seem pretty extreme!
@mattmcirvin @moira @geoffduncan
I guess this is the New England means it’s a fishing village school of thinking?
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Just say “new york is in new England” this makes people from here irrationally angry and although I’ve lived here most of my life as someone from the midwest I don’t think I’ll ever understand why.
(it is very funny though… be subtle about it eg “New York, Hartford and other new england cities”)
@futurebird @geoffduncan @moira reminds me of when folks call Denver a “Midwestern city.”
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@futurebird @geoffduncan @moira reminds me of when folks call Denver a “Midwestern city.”
No no no no no no. Yes it is in the middle. Technically. That is where THAT ends.
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Just say “new york is in new England” this makes people from here irrationally angry and although I’ve lived here most of my life as someone from the midwest I don’t think I’ll ever understand why.
(it is very funny though… be subtle about it eg “New York, Hartford and other new england cities”)
@futurebird @geoffduncan @moira
Pfft. New York City is more New Jersey than it is New England. -
@futurebird @geoffduncan @moira
Pfft. New York City is more New Jersey than it is New England.@apLundell @geoffduncan @moira
OK now *I’m* mad. Wanna take this outside buddy?
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@futurebird @geoffduncan @moira
Pfft. New York City is more New Jersey than it is New England.@apLundell @geoffduncan @moira
Or we could call NJ “new england” and watch the fireworks.
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they are from LA!
but the kid was like “yeah out west”
The theory is if there is a guitar and it’s “from out west” then it’s “country”
NYC children concern me sometimes.
@futurebird as a child I was terribly confused by "western" music that seemed to originate east of where I lived my whole life.
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they are from LA!
but the kid was like “yeah out west”
The theory is if there is a guitar and it’s “from out west” then it’s “country”
NYC children concern me sometimes.
I should probably not admit where I thought they were from...
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I should probably not admit where I thought they were from...
@timjan I have to know please… I need to understand this kid and this could help.
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A middle school student just tried to tell me “guns and roses” was “country music”
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@futurebird If not for Slash, November Rain could be a Glen Campbell song.
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@futurebird If not for Slash, November Rain could be a Glen Campbell song.
@Tattered
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@mfennvt No just complaining about how their dad “listens to country music”
@futurebird @mfennvt so basically code for "oldies", but I think that's an established genre so they have to keep coming up for new names for "music from 20+ years ago" and maybe they aren't sticking, so the youth is coming up with their own names.
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A middle school student just tried to tell me “guns and roses” was “country music”
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@futurebird it kinda makes sense that kids would think that, as the current musical landscape doesn't really have traditional blue collar guitar-driven rock-- that space has been increasingly occupied by country. They might see all of rock as country sub-genres
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@timjan I have to know please… I need to understand this kid and this could help.
@futurebird
As a middle aged European-turned-Californian, whose only connection to NYC so far has been a 3 day visit in ... 2012? ... I'm not sure I'm in any way representative...But for some reason, and I had never had any reason to bother to look it up, I always assumed that they were Australian.
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@futurebird @mfennvt so basically code for "oldies", but I think that's an established genre so they have to keep coming up for new names for "music from 20+ years ago" and maybe they aren't sticking, so the youth is coming up with their own names.
Not exactly. They know Michael Jackson isn’t “country” or “Led Zeppelin” for that matter and those are “oldies” This is something more convoluted— I think it’s the bandanna.
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@futurebird
As a middle aged European-turned-Californian, whose only connection to NYC so far has been a 3 day visit in ... 2012? ... I'm not sure I'm in any way representative...But for some reason, and I had never had any reason to bother to look it up, I always assumed that they were Australian.
