>M-Disc woah woah woah, Mr. Namedrop. What is this, now? 100GB RW Blu-rays? $57 for a pack of 6? $57 for 600GB $100 for a 4TB WD Red >the hard drive won't last as long That implies it's powered. Would it last as long as cold storage? ...this is so offtopic, but I must know.

Free games like fortnite

M-Disc are just like Blu-ray storage. However, they are not re-writable, instead being physically engraved with a laser. They are marketed as lasting 1000 years. Get yourself a nice Bluray-writer and you're all set.

As a rule, I never buy games on release. From everything I hear, you pay twice the price to get an unfinished game in most cases. I put them on my wishlist, keep an eye on the reviews and depending on those I decide how much of a discount it will require for me to actually buy the game. Usually I end up getting them at least a year later and/or at least at 50% off.

Maybe their parents have less money. Guess who's fault is it ? Wall Street Journal that wrote original article have it in their name.

Make a timeline comparing the rising cost of games, rising unemployment, addition of tariffs on exports from Japan and this. Notice a pattern?

Tariffs would likely have very tiny influence on this statistic since most video game spending nowadays is digital, and digital products are protected from tariffs since tariffs are only attached to physical goods.

!patientgamers@sh.itjust.works and !patientgamers@lemmy.ml

For a WD Red? Get that shingled magnetic shit out of my NAS.

That and broad, massive economic collapse in basicallt every other sector, at least in the US.

Games are getting more expensive. Console prices are going nuts; the Playstation 2 launched at $299 USD. Wages have been stagnant longer than I've been alive. More and more people are struggling to make ends meet let alone buy luxuries like video games, particularly the young because of our kleptogeriocracy. Younger folks often use video games as a hangout spot, because young folks hanging out together in public is a felony now. So they play the same few games for tens of thousands of hours. Minecraft, Roblox, Fortnite, I think the crowd that spend their adolescences in Garrysmod are in the attrition phase. You've already got a copy of these games, why buy another? A lot of studios are being closed because business major's gonna business. Fuck brand recognition or loyalty, fuck development talent, fuck community building, fuck long-term strategy, we can realize a gain right now by sowing half the planet with salt, so that's what we're going to do. So what is there for people to buy? That noise you heard last week was Xbox's death rattle. One out of the three mainstream home console platforms is an outright stupid idea to buy now.

Hard drives are affected by [bit rot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_degradation) even when not in use. A disk check every six months would help, but is not a guarantee against data corruption or loss. M-DISC physically etches the data into the disc, and should last around a lifetime to a thousand years, depending on who you believe. The catch would be being able to read it in the distant future (in other words, if you're using M-DISC as a backup solution, you should also have a backup disc drive).

 Saw this stupid fucking headline on some magazine a coworker left behind today.

> the Playstation 2 launched at $299 USD. Not disagreeing with you, but with inflation that's about $558 as of this comment.

I'm a bit younger, though not a lot. I all but stopped buying games because Epic and Amazon give so many away for free. I've got like 500 free games that I haven't even installed once. The only time I'd actually pay for a game is if it's a special one I want, and they've gotten few and far between.

Inflation, yeah. The thing that has absolutely never been applied to wages?

> Not disagreeing with you

I hear about these cases of inflation, like the fact a pack of gum cost 15 trillion Zimbabwe dollars, or immediately after WWII the German...reichmarke or whatever they called it, was so worthless it took a wheelbarrow full to buy a loaf of bread. Where do I get a wheelbarrow full of uselessly inflated USD? *It's not actually inflation, is it?*

I bet you money right now that the next Xbox will be the best selling Xbox ever.

I'd need roughly 15-16 packs to do my entire archive atm, which is nearly $860. ...buuuut, I also see value in doing something like this _over time_. Say, I buy a pack once or twice a month, back up some data.