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For a game called "Dungeons & Dragons" there is a shocking lack of both dungeons and dragons
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I've played a lot of D&D over the years. Hundreds of hours. But these so-called "dungeons"? No captives. Not even any cells. That's not a dungeon. that's a glorified cave. And don't even get me started on the dragons. Dragonborn? Sure, I've seen plenty. Heard my fair share of Draconic. And wyverns are fairly common I suppose but that's like pointing at all the dogs in the world and saying "we're infested with wolves!" I'm beginning to feel like I've been lied to all this time.> But these so-called "dungeons"? No captives. Not even any cells. That's not a dungeon. that's a glorified cave. I've always wondered how the term "dungeon" as it's used in RPGs came to be. a lot of appendix N literature had locations we would now consider dungeons, but were they called that at the time? and then the first RPG dungeon was the literal dungeon under Blackmoor Castle, but very early on we had dungeons that stopped being literal dungeons- didn't B1 and B2 exclusively have cave "dungeons?" and the Ruined Tower of Zenopus in the first Basic book had underground portions but I think those were caves too!
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FYI: you can throw a dragon at any party at any time as a non-combat encounter or as a natural disaster they aren't supposed to be able to fight or controlYeah, my DM threw a young white(I think) dragon at us pretty early in the campaign. It wasn't meant to be a fight we won, we were only meant to drive it off and possibly have a sidequest type thing to go loot it's lair later. It tried to fly away. We teleported into the air after it, and I clung to it's back and kept dropping divine smites in it until it died. Was fantastic.
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FYI: you can throw a dragon at any party at any time as a non-combat encounter or as a natural disaster they aren't supposed to be able to fight or control
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I've played a lot of D&D over the years. Hundreds of hours. But these so-called "dungeons"? No captives. Not even any cells. That's not a dungeon. that's a glorified cave. And don't even get me started on the dragons. Dragonborn? Sure, I've seen plenty. Heard my fair share of Draconic. And wyverns are fairly common I suppose but that's like pointing at all the dogs in the world and saying "we're infested with wolves!" I'm beginning to feel like I've been lied to all this time.
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I've played a lot of D&D over the years. Hundreds of hours. But these so-called "dungeons"? No captives. Not even any cells. That's not a dungeon. that's a glorified cave. And don't even get me started on the dragons. Dragonborn? Sure, I've seen plenty. Heard my fair share of Draconic. And wyverns are fairly common I suppose but that's like pointing at all the dogs in the world and saying "we're infested with wolves!" I'm beginning to feel like I've been lied to all this time.
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That sounds like a job for Readied Actions! (Our DM tried that with the dragon at the end of Icespire Peak, but fortunately my character had a spell that grounded flying enemies and it failed its save. Dragons aren't nearly as bad when you know they're coming and have an entire module to build your character towards fighting them. Surprise dragons are still a nightmare though!)We kept readying actions! Used cover, avoided grouping up, tried distracting it, begged pleadingly, etc. as well. All that did was cause the dragon to choose two squishies to kill before the others. Prepping would have been an excellent idea, but in our defense, we were very dumb
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I've played a lot of D&D over the years. Hundreds of hours. But these so-called "dungeons"? No captives. Not even any cells. That's not a dungeon. that's a glorified cave. And don't even get me started on the dragons. Dragonborn? Sure, I've seen plenty. Heard my fair share of Draconic. And wyverns are fairly common I suppose but that's like pointing at all the dogs in the world and saying "we're infested with wolves!" I'm beginning to feel like I've been lied to all this time.
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We kept readying actions! Used cover, avoided grouping up, tried distracting it, begged pleadingly, etc. as well. All that did was cause the dragon to choose two squishies to kill before the others. Prepping would have been an excellent idea, but in our defense, we were very dumbAh, the bane of all adventurers: _planning_. Why waste time with thinky-think when big stick already hit good? Though our party of three didn't include any ranged characters (and my druid was the only caster), so we'd have been completely screwed if the dragon made all of its saves before I ran out of spell slots. _Strength_ saves, so our own "plan" was a stupid gamble that only paid off due to luck.
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I've played a lot of D&D over the years. Hundreds of hours. But these so-called "dungeons"? No captives. Not even any cells. That's not a dungeon. that's a glorified cave. And don't even get me started on the dragons. Dragonborn? Sure, I've seen plenty. Heard my fair share of Draconic. And wyverns are fairly common I suppose but that's like pointing at all the dogs in the world and saying "we're infested with wolves!" I'm beginning to feel like I've been lied to all this time.
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I've played a lot of D&D over the years. Hundreds of hours. But these so-called "dungeons"? No captives. Not even any cells. That's not a dungeon. that's a glorified cave. And don't even get me started on the dragons. Dragonborn? Sure, I've seen plenty. Heard my fair share of Draconic. And wyverns are fairly common I suppose but that's like pointing at all the dogs in the world and saying "we're infested with wolves!" I'm beginning to feel like I've been lied to all this time.
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I've played a lot of D&D over the years. Hundreds of hours. But these so-called "dungeons"? No captives. Not even any cells. That's not a dungeon. that's a glorified cave. And don't even get me started on the dragons. Dragonborn? Sure, I've seen plenty. Heard my fair share of Draconic. And wyverns are fairly common I suppose but that's like pointing at all the dogs in the world and saying "we're infested with wolves!" I'm beginning to feel like I've been lied to all this time.I started a campaign where, after 20 years of gaming with this group, we were finally going to have a dragon for a big bad. Then my entire country collapsed irl, destroying the game. It's like the universe abhors actually having dragons in your D&D game.
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I've played a lot of D&D over the years. Hundreds of hours. But these so-called "dungeons"? No captives. Not even any cells. That's not a dungeon. that's a glorified cave. And don't even get me started on the dragons. Dragonborn? Sure, I've seen plenty. Heard my fair share of Draconic. And wyverns are fairly common I suppose but that's like pointing at all the dogs in the world and saying "we're infested with wolves!" I'm beginning to feel like I've been lied to all this time.
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I've played a lot of D&D over the years. Hundreds of hours. But these so-called "dungeons"? No captives. Not even any cells. That's not a dungeon. that's a glorified cave. And don't even get me started on the dragons. Dragonborn? Sure, I've seen plenty. Heard my fair share of Draconic. And wyverns are fairly common I suppose but that's like pointing at all the dogs in the world and saying "we're infested with wolves!" I'm beginning to feel like I've been lied to all this time.
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Ah, the bane of all adventurers: _planning_. Why waste time with thinky-think when big stick already hit good? Though our party of three didn't include any ranged characters (and my druid was the only caster), so we'd have been completely screwed if the dragon made all of its saves before I ran out of spell slots. _Strength_ saves, so our own "plan" was a stupid gamble that only paid off due to luck.IMO, you played perfectly. Luck and narrative building are fantastic skills that can tip a campaign in one direction or another, and we simply lacked one of the other. Revel in your superiority!