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A forum for discussing and organizing recreational softball and baseball games and leagues in the greater Halifax area.

I will call "No Kings" a big success.

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  • Dave GoldsmithD Dave Goldsmith

    @raven667 @futurebird @Npars01

    Makes sense. Who is organizing? Big labor? These one and done protests are unlikely to move the needle...

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    @Dave_Goldsmith @futurebird @Npars01 thats the thing, if any group is organizing with purpose of a general strike I'm not aware of it, I just hear chants for it from leftist and online nerds who want "one weird trick" to fix our major dysfunction, to cause pain for the people causing our trouble, but don't respect the work needed for the tactic to be effective.

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      @Dave_Goldsmith @futurebird @Npars01 thats the thing, if any group is organizing with purpose of a general strike I'm not aware of it, I just hear chants for it from leftist and online nerds who want "one weird trick" to fix our major dysfunction, to cause pain for the people causing our trouble, but don't respect the work needed for the tactic to be effective.

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      @raven667 @futurebird @Npars01

      I'm thinking a general strike can be a one-day affair. It should not have to cause trauma to workers. I don't know is it ridiculous to imagine one day a month we shut down the economy?

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      • Dave GoldsmithD Dave Goldsmith

        @raven667 @futurebird @Npars01

        I'm thinking a general strike can be a one-day affair. It should not have to cause trauma to workers. I don't know is it ridiculous to imagine one day a month we shut down the economy?

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        @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @futurebird @Npars01

        So our union has had two strikes in the 26 years I have been in it. 2000 and 2022. They were not one day affairs rather open ended 56 days in 2000 and a week in 2022.

        TO send a message 1 day is fine to effect any change may need to be longer than that but 1 day would still be cool to see

        As Always "They have the plant but we have the power"

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        • FreddyB Aviation PhotographyC FreddyB Aviation Photography

          @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @futurebird @Npars01

          So our union has had two strikes in the 26 years I have been in it. 2000 and 2022. They were not one day affairs rather open ended 56 days in 2000 and a week in 2022.

          TO send a message 1 day is fine to effect any change may need to be longer than that but 1 day would still be cool to see

          As Always "They have the plant but we have the power"

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          @cvvhrn @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01

          We almost did a teacher's strike once, but they caved at the last moment. We had to do a lot of prep to be ready and frankly I was very happy we didn't need to walk out.

          I like my job!

          Strikes take a collective will.

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          • Dave GoldsmithD Dave Goldsmith

            @raven667 @futurebird @Npars01

            I'm thinking a general strike can be a one-day affair. It should not have to cause trauma to workers. I don't know is it ridiculous to imagine one day a month we shut down the economy?

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            @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @futurebird

            The covid lockdowns are an example of how billionaires respond to such closures.
            https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/03/dan-patrick-coronavirus-grandparents

            https://www.commondreams.org/views/2020/10/16/koch-funded-legal-group-pushes-allow-mass-evictions-during-pandemichttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Barrington_Declaration

            https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/02/12/5-years-later-america-looks-back-at-the-impact-of-covid-19/

            They funded an enormous disinformation campaign hectoring people to die to save the economy.

            Koch Network has funded legislation to outlaw strikes as a type of tortious interference, all while waging economic warfare on blue cities using ICE raids.

            https://www.scotusblog.com/2023/06/supreme-court-rules-against-union-over-strike-liability/

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            • Nicole ParsonsN Nicole Parsons

              @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @futurebird

              The covid lockdowns are an example of how billionaires respond to such closures.
              https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/03/dan-patrick-coronavirus-grandparents

              https://www.commondreams.org/views/2020/10/16/koch-funded-legal-group-pushes-allow-mass-evictions-during-pandemichttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Barrington_Declaration

              https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/02/12/5-years-later-america-looks-back-at-the-impact-of-covid-19/

              They funded an enormous disinformation campaign hectoring people to die to save the economy.

              Koch Network has funded legislation to outlaw strikes as a type of tortious interference, all while waging economic warfare on blue cities using ICE raids.

              https://www.scotusblog.com/2023/06/supreme-court-rules-against-union-over-strike-liability/

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              @Npars01 @raven667 @futurebird

              What should we do instead of general strikes and boycotts?

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              • Dave GoldsmithD Dave Goldsmith

                @raven667 @futurebird @Npars01

                I'm thinking a general strike can be a one-day affair. It should not have to cause trauma to workers. I don't know is it ridiculous to imagine one day a month we shut down the economy?

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                @raven667 @futurebird @Npars01

                Microsoft has patch Tuesdays. Why can't we have No Kings Mondays? The second Monday of every month there's a general strike. People in favor of the strike meet to discuss politics, work on local projects like cleaning and repairing homes, stream cleanup, etc.

                You may say that I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one. (I hope.)

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                • Dave GoldsmithD Dave Goldsmith

                  @raven667 @futurebird @Npars01

                  Microsoft has patch Tuesdays. Why can't we have No Kings Mondays? The second Monday of every month there's a general strike. People in favor of the strike meet to discuss politics, work on local projects like cleaning and repairing homes, stream cleanup, etc.

                  You may say that I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one. (I hope.)

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                  @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01

                  I hate the idea of missing school. It will ruin things for my students.

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                  • Dave GoldsmithD Dave Goldsmith

                    @raven667 @futurebird @Npars01

                    Microsoft has patch Tuesdays. Why can't we have No Kings Mondays? The second Monday of every month there's a general strike. People in favor of the strike meet to discuss politics, work on local projects like cleaning and repairing homes, stream cleanup, etc.

                    You may say that I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one. (I hope.)

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                    @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01

                    My point with that comment is that people have very different relationships to their jobs and what a "strike" might mean.

                    I don't think this is as generally applicable as it might seem. Maybe for the retail and parts of the private sector it could make sense, but not everyone works there.

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                    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                      @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01

                      I hate the idea of missing school. It will ruin things for my students.

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                      @futurebird @raven667 @Npars01

                      Why can't the kids meet and contribute to the general good? Why can't you and other adults use this monthly general strike day to raise their awareness of their roles as citizens in a democratic society?

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                      • Dave GoldsmithD Dave Goldsmith

                        @futurebird @raven667 @Npars01

                        Why can't the kids meet and contribute to the general good? Why can't you and other adults use this monthly general strike day to raise their awareness of their roles as citizens in a democratic society?

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                        @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01

                        Because I have every hour of class time planned and wish I had more.

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                        • Dave GoldsmithD Dave Goldsmith

                          @Npars01 @raven667 @futurebird

                          What should we do instead of general strikes and boycotts?

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                          @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @futurebird

                          Recommendations?

                          Try it all, until something clicks with billionaires. It's going to take a lot to break through to MAGA billionaires

                          They're very insulated from backlash & they own a media ecosystem that servilely serves up self-soothing lies

                          In the past, global financial meltdowns & world wars did the trick, ... eventually

                          Try the tactics of the Simple Sabotage Manual & escalate up to massing troops on the border to free folks from fascist overlords

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                          • Nicole ParsonsN Nicole Parsons

                            @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @futurebird

                            Recommendations?

                            Try it all, until something clicks with billionaires. It's going to take a lot to break through to MAGA billionaires

                            They're very insulated from backlash & they own a media ecosystem that servilely serves up self-soothing lies

                            In the past, global financial meltdowns & world wars did the trick, ... eventually

                            Try the tactics of the Simple Sabotage Manual & escalate up to massing troops on the border to free folks from fascist overlords

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                            @Npars01 @raven667 @futurebird

                            I like the idea of trying everything non-violently.

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                            • Dave GoldsmithD Dave Goldsmith

                              @Npars01 @raven667 @futurebird

                              I like the idea of trying everything non-violently.

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                              @Dave_Goldsmith @Npars01 @raven667

                              Do you have a union at your job? Or in your industry? I think rebuilding unions is important. Even fast food workers made some progress on this front.

                              There are jobs where it can be harder to organize.

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                              • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                @cvvhrn @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01

                                We almost did a teacher's strike once, but they caved at the last moment. We had to do a lot of prep to be ready and frankly I was very happy we didn't need to walk out.

                                I like my job!

                                Strikes take a collective will.

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                                @futurebird @cvvhrn @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01

                                Back in the 1980s we had rolling strikes in teaching.
                                Odd days, mornings and afternoons rather than going out on strike long term eg the crippling miners strike against Thatcher's govt.

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                                • Godfrey642G Godfrey642

                                  @futurebird @cvvhrn @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01

                                  Back in the 1980s we had rolling strikes in teaching.
                                  Odd days, mornings and afternoons rather than going out on strike long term eg the crippling miners strike against Thatcher's govt.

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                                  @Godfrey642 @futurebird @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01 From a nursing standpoint, the rolling stuff does not seem to work. We are an independent union but the dominant large nurses union uses the 1 day strikes a lot.

                                  For hospitals at least most can cancel electives and hold on for a day but open ended is much harder for them

                                  To be fair its hard on everybody

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                                  • FreddyB Aviation PhotographyC FreddyB Aviation Photography

                                    @Godfrey642 @futurebird @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01 From a nursing standpoint, the rolling stuff does not seem to work. We are an independent union but the dominant large nurses union uses the 1 day strikes a lot.

                                    For hospitals at least most can cancel electives and hold on for a day but open ended is much harder for them

                                    To be fair its hard on everybody

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                                    @cvvhrn @futurebird @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01

                                    Im not a fan of open ended strikes at all.
                                    My husb and i were both teachers in the UK. We had 3 young children so losing multiple days earnings in a teachers strike had massive knock-on for us.
                                    It's not sustainable for most workers.

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                                    • Godfrey642G Godfrey642

                                      @cvvhrn @futurebird @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01

                                      Im not a fan of open ended strikes at all.
                                      My husb and i were both teachers in the UK. We had 3 young children so losing multiple days earnings in a teachers strike had massive knock-on for us.
                                      It's not sustainable for most workers.

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                                      @Godfrey642 @futurebird @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01

                                      I hear you and we struggle as well but in my direct experience (2 strikes 2000 56 days and 2022 5 days) it works and like you my wife is a nurse at the same facility so we get hit x2

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                                      • FreddyB Aviation PhotographyC FreddyB Aviation Photography

                                        @Godfrey642 @futurebird @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01

                                        I hear you and we struggle as well but in my direct experience (2 strikes 2000 56 days and 2022 5 days) it works and like you my wife is a nurse at the same facility so we get hit x2

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                                        @cvvhrn @futurebird @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01

                                        We used to alternate days... it wasn't ideal by *any* means and being a scab on the days in was v v hard. Not bringing in money wasn't an option either.

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                                        • Godfrey642G Godfrey642

                                          @cvvhrn @futurebird @Dave_Goldsmith @raven667 @Npars01

                                          We used to alternate days... it wasn't ideal by *any* means and being a scab on the days in was v v hard. Not bringing in money wasn't an option either.

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                                          @Godfrey642 @cvvhrn @futurebird @raven667 @Npars01

                                          Do you think the idea of a once a month general strike is Impractical or impossible? What about once a quarter?

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